Democracy

[doos r us]

johno i took them myself in our own transporter with 2 other members we arrived kirky 745 had a tour of there new club colin gray arrived 815 i bwas having a beer at home at 915 thats as accurate as i can get unless you would like to ask any kirky member    no comment wos

[doos r us]

i think 4 panniers 1 withe 10 3 with 20 were said add that up and you are quoting numbers in an offhanded way

[johno]

the numbers i quoted were for this week which you more or less agreed with.

[johno]

what about last weeks meeting. what about going to kelso. you stated you were only going to appleby.

[johno]

is there not a rule some where that states you need four or five members to acompany birds.

[doos r us]

you are trying to use the numbers to say dont add up to a fed we sold 750 rings with more asked for if 20 lofts buy 40 each its 800 does the size of the members loft now going to appear in the rules cant join shu unless you keep x amount of pigeons its the members who decide how many they send not you or anyone else

[GREENGRASS]

 

 

The only similar situation I share with Fifer, [and the reason he chose in his own words 'wrongly' to  post attacks on the RPRA] was the constant attacks on this forum on the SHU. My choice was and is to question some of these attacks, and particularly the underlying motives behind them. For example the current spotlight on WoS in this thread has nothing to do with that Fed and everything to do with the removal of J Barlow as SHU President. I know that you have unresolved issues from Glasgow Fed days, but it's really a side show and if you are honest, really belongs in the past.

 

 

 

I reply in the same vein to your query on the other 4 Feds as I did in my reply to Me, and that is in support of what I've said about WoS and J Barlow, if it was an honest concern, then other Feds would be named too; and I'm sure these will also be discussed at Council together with the criteria under which they were granted Fed status..

 

Agree with what you say about compliance, and change when change is needed and I'm sure this will also be discussed at Council, with proposals for change put to the next AGM.

 

 

 

 

 

 

bruno it is not the man as you say but the situation that was created to allow him continue in office which i do not agree with, why so desperate to keep him there. as i said before if the custodians of the union will flaunt rules, regulations and the constitution to get their own way what example does it set the members. the union currently has no respect with its fellow unions, the words laughing stock have been used many times and when you speak to members of other unions they all agree. my own opinion is that mr barlow has shown very poor judgement and taste and a total lack of respect for the office of president of the shu.

 

i agree with you regarding leaving the past in the past re  galsgow and dumbarton.

 

i must admit i did not know that there were 4 other dodgy delegates who do not meet the rules criteria but would appreciate you posting up who they are or which federations are involved.

[johno]

i am not trying to say anything. i am saying you sent 70 birds to kelso with renfrew. you agreed to this earlier. you said you sent 6 to appleby with the midland. your post not mine.

[doos r us]

so 5 members of each club in lanark get on the transporter and went to kelso on sat some party

[GREENGRASS]

johno i took them myself in our own transporter with 2 other members we arrived kirky 745 had a tour of there new club colin gray arrived 815 i bwas having a beer at home at 915 thats as accurate as i can get unless you would like to ask any kirky member    no comment wos

 

 

 

really well who drove your transporter down to kilbarchan and helped load your 60 birds onto the transporter.

 

 

brown tights .............i hear you have a stock pile ready

[johno]

i do not know anything about lanark. you said you and 2 members took your pigeons to the transporter of the midland for last saturdays race. i am only referring to an shu rule requirement in taking pigeons to transport for racing. rules is rules. you said you abide by them in an earlier post.

[doos r us]

your vright i was talking abuot 21 4 07  first race  the birds were picked up at 9pm kilbarchan new driver new system at renfrew there still trying to work out the best way to do it

[doos r us]

3 members went to kilbarchan so whats your point gg

[johno]

confused.com

[doos r us]

so 5 fed members accompany the birds when they meet to go on to 1 transporter to lille for instance ayr /b myle renfrew /lanark /midland /i think not

[GREENGRASS]

3 members went to kilbarchan so whats your point gg

 

 

 

wrong only 2 turned up.................oh what a tangled web one weaves when first one tries to decieve..........................

[doos r us]

the rule book states   4 members whilst awaiting uplifting/freighting even you would agree that the use of our transporter for freighting is legal and we use different members each week

[doos r us]

gg a boyd and j king cove  and d kennedy dumbarton thanks

[Guest]

bruno you continually fail to take anything on board. any postings i make i make based on what i know. no rumour. like other mere mortals i can be wrong in my assesment of any given situation. for you to use the language and ill inetentioned sub text in an attempt to ridicule me is not the actions of a so called educated individual. it only highlights your failings as a human being. you make claims about my own position when you have no knowledge of my situation what so ever. the idea that  because four other feds are breaking the rules somehow makes the current situation acceptable is ludicrous. as to my double standards i would be greatful if you could point to any of my postings where i have used language such as bullshite and other strong innappropriate language for a site such as this. this again highlights that anything is acceptable to you but the truth. i put it to you that you would have great difficulty in highlighting out and out lies in many if any of my postings. i attempt to highlight questionable situations making others aware of the facts as i see them. your dictatorial approach to life obviously gives you great problems with this. your obsessive and compulsive need to intervene and pass comment on all situations has left you in position where reality is hard for you to identify. the fact that you continually feel the need to take me on highlights your failings to sustain a mature and fair debate. i fail to see how someone with your experience and education is so hell bent in denying me the right to air my opinions. i am only a humble participant on the forum. i have no experience of dealing with human resources issues. i have no masters degrees. i did not in past take part in the local race equalty forum. i have not been a leader of men and woman as you have been in your past work. why do you feel so agitated and frustrated by me that you feel the need to attempt to label me as a sick person. have i missed something previously? do you have a medical qualification also. why do i annoy you so much. you always have to revert to the safety of the delete button. you hide behind the cloak of safety that you feel you have as a moderator. classic bullying tactics. i have no doubt and others have witnessed in the past that you will have no problem in closing this thread because someone will ask you to. you may even ask another moderator to intervene to save you further embarrassment. as to being turned out i am not a figure of amusement and ridicule in my local area. i have been told this is the opinion of you held by many of your fellow nw fed members. i have had personal pms on this site telling me so. one thing is for sure as long as there is life in me i will not stand by and watch wrongs being done and say nothing. i can assure you there is no witch hunt. the contrived situation within wos /club/ fed is wrong. if you and others are happy with it then so be it. i will maintain my right to post any facts as i see them. your previous bullying and continued underhand attempt at frightening me off will not stop me. your own high opinion of your capabilities and high handeed approach to all matters leaves you without many supporters. i know that deep deep down you know that i am right. you know that you cannot compete with my approach and this only feeds your obsessiion and craving for what you see as a victory. good luck to you with your doos. you would be well advised to spend more time with them than on this forum as with the pigeons you only highlight your deficiencies on a weekly basis. you are doing this 3 or 4 times daily on this forum. sincerely good luck with the pigeons.

 

One of your main failings is a lack of understanding of simple terms - double standards : a rule or principle applied more strictly to some people than to oneself. EXAMPLE: Despite having left a trail of broken 'sporting' relationships yourself, you venture into my personal relationships with my clubmates, about which you clearly know nothing, then accuse me 'of having no knowledge of your situation what so ever..'

 

You also refuted that the reason you and others are so interested in WoS Fed, was really J Barlow, then follow it up with a post that this is your reason. That's one lie highlighted. Want more?

 

Do you really think I want to compete with you? How long have you suffered these delusions and what are doing about it? I repeat, you are one sick individual.

[johno]

doos if yiou are happy then that is all that matters.

[GREENGRASS]

gg a boyd and j king cove  and d kennedy dumbarton thanks

 

 

 

you must have lost one along the way and were they in the same transporter you had at kirky think not................anyway you do what you have to do to get your birds down the road, good luck for the rest of the season and enjoy your doos, with some luck wee mick might get another cracker again this year.

[doos r us]

gg you seem to love the tangled web patter   spiders catch flys they will be plenty flys around your brown tights on the 7th

[GREENGRASS]

gg you seem to love the tangled web patter   spiders catch flys they will be plenty flys around your brown tights on the 7th

 

 

 

aye and you like to decieve ,,,,,,,,,,, ;) ;)you keep your brown tights handy, you never know you might just need them.  again good luck and emjoy your doos.................. ;D ;D

[doos r us]

you did not pay attention to the post when johno asks if a clock was set and i explained my partner took our pigeons to kirky and they were marked there our choice not to compete at kelso we had 4/6 doing 1485.8 winner kirky doing 1501 i think

[johno]

bruno if you really think i am sick why do you feel the obsessive need to attack me and my posts? as to mentioning the fact that your club and fed mates think you are a figure of ridicule i am only repeating what i have been told. the same as you would have people believe that i have left a trail of broken sporting relationships behind me based on what you have been told. once again your attempting to camouflage your bullying with long winded and over indulgent language. face the truth you cannot cope with my approach. truthful fair and open. poison to a bully. you cannot cope with the fact that most people cannot suffer your pompous and high handed approach to matters. stand back and have a look in the mirror. always remember it is never to late to change. never say never. help is available. you only need to ask. admitting a problem is the first step towards doing something about it.