At Last

[pjc]

i remeber winning a smash by over an hour, under those rules it would have been disqualified!

[Lennut Tar]

for the uneducated, an improbable velocity would be a velocity that exceeds that expected or atainable with weather conditions / wind direction.

i.e birds lib at 9.00, bird clocked at 10.00 flying 60miles = 1760 ypm.

slight tail wind would be expected velocity, head wind would be improbible velocity!

 

First off !!!!!!! I'm quite happy to accept Swilcox's explanation, to me above etc on this matter (not a problem). Funny thing thou   ;) the wind ??????? & it's a big  big sky up there above us now, & it doesn't always blow in the same direction on any given day at different levels etc. For what I have found in my time.

PS Dave !!!!!! Love your wisdom above   :P    :D "Spot on".

Enjoy.

 

 

 

[Guest Vic]

At one time in the Amal, there was a ruling regarding improbable/impossible velocities. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but it was something like this. (1st place only, obviously) If a bird beats the next bird by 10 seconds over each minute flown, it will be deemed an improbable/impossible velocity. (subject to an emergency committee meeting). Over the years there were one or two disqualified on this simple, but effecient ruling. It may have even have been five seconds.Food for thought. Vic.   

[Guest chrisss]

At one time in the Amal, there was a ruling regarding improbable/impossible velocities. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but it was something like this. (1st place only, obviously) If a bird beats the next bird by 10 seconds over each minute flown, it will be deemed an improbable/impossible velocity. (subject to an emergency committee meeting). Over the years there were one or two disqualified on this simple, but effecient ruling. It may have even have been five seconds.Food for thought. Vic.   

 

thats the best explanation yet at least i know what it is now cheers mate ;D ;D

[Lennut Tar]

At one time in the Amal, there was a ruling regarding improbable/impossible velocities. I can't remember exactly how it was worded, but it was something like this. (1st place only, obviously) If a bird beats the next bird by 10 seconds over each minute flown, it will be deemed an improbable/impossible velocity. (subject to an emergency committee meeting). Over the years there were one or two disqualified on this simple, but effecient ruling. It may have even have been five seconds.Food for thought. Vic.   

 

Your killing me now Vic !!!!!!!!!!  "PMSL"   :D :D  :'( :'( :'( I thought you were p*ssed of with all of us here   ;) & left us again, in your wisdom  :K) :K) :K).

Enjoy.

 

 

[DOVEScot]

it is possible for a bird to escape before liberation which would give an improbable velocity and be way out in front. I would never acuse anybody of cheating without proof or knowing all the facts!

 

Surely in that case it would not be the fanciers fault, I find it hard to see how and if a bird is released with the rest and no cheating has gone on how is it not deemed the winner :-/

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Your killing me now Vic !!!!!!!!!!  "PMSL"   :D :D  :'( :'( :'( I thought you were p*ssed of with all of us here   ;) & left us again, in your wisdom  :K) :K) :K).

Enjoy.

 

 

more often than not he is

[xtccock]

i have a query, not to upset the apple cart but was it not mr willcox that took the situation to region level,then claim, justice at last, after hearing his appeal, it was his apeal that brought about the decision, he obviously objected to the result  originally r u gunna tell us why.....................

[retired]

i have a query, not to upset the apple cart but was it not mr willcox that took the situation to region level,then claim, justice at last, after hearing his appeal, it was his apeal that brought about the decision, he obviously objected to the result  originally r u gunna tell us why.....................

 

I thought Stuart saying impossible velocity was enough of a reason for him to appeal the original result.

 

If the velocity was considered impossible Stuart or anyone else for that matter has the right to appeal and in the case of Mr Wilcoxs pigeon it was deemed by an independent regional committee to be the true winner of the race.

 

Surely that is plain enough

 

 

[DOVEScot]

 

I thought Stuart saying impossible velocity was enough of a reason for him to appeal the original result.

 

If the velocity was considered impossible Stuart or anyone else for that matter has the right to appeal and in the case of Mr Wilcoxs pigeon it was deemed by an independent regional committee to be the true winner of the race.

 

Surely that is plain enough

 

 

I thought it was improbable not impossible :-/

 

 

[retired]

The region would i beleive have to have deemed it an impossible velocity as if there was a chance the bird had flown it legitimatly the appeal would have been dismissed.

[DOVEScot]

 

I thought Stuart saying impossible velocity was enough of a reason for him to appeal the original result.

 

If the velocity was considered impossible Stuart or anyone else for that matter has the right to appeal and in the case of Mr Wilcoxs pigeon it was deemed by an independent regional committee to be the true winner of the race.

 

Surely that is plain enough

 

 

 

The region would i beleive have to have deemed it an impossible velocity as if there was a chance the bird had flown it legitimatly the appeal would have been dismissed.

 

Sorry lads i should say why, it didnt concern my birds or me but a fancier who was removed from the result on the grounds of his velocity being improbable.

 

 

[jimmy white]

if you kept racing pigeons , raced for a few years, you would soon know improbable or impossible vel. so playing devils advocate on something you know nothing about is fairly plain silly ,,,,,its experience in racing pigeons you need , then you wouldnt be acting like this ,sorry , but this is true.

 

   " the region would , i beleive,have to have deemed it an impossible velocity,,,,,,as if there was a chance that the bird had flown this legitimatly........the appeal would have been dismissed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,whoever put in the appeal whether it be willcox , some other member , or club or fed "

[swilcox]

Its impossible based on the grounds of improbability!!

 

Enjoy your games!!!!

[gangster]

well done stu justice served!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Guest Paulo]

glad you have got the result Stuart.

[joe61]

i for one would like to know what the vels were and milage were between the guys bird and swilcox first bird the vote wasnot unanimous so 4 people thought it probable as mr tar says the sky is a big place air pockets and such like the 4 minetemile they said was in probable but it was done 100m undeer 10 secs inprobable it was done swilcox said in his post nothing to do with him or his bird he made the objection so it is to do with him so lets have the whole story not just the bits you want people to hear

 

oh happy days

[swilcox]

Joe61 if you would like an explanation then ask the RPRA they passed the judgement.

 

Joe 61 why do you have two accounts????

[retired]

The region heard the story and decided the winner so it really does not matter what people think.

 

 

Well done on a fantastic result

[Guest scoobybob]

The region heard the story and decided the winner so it really does not matter what people think.

 

 

Well done on a fantastic result

 

I have to agree with this. 18 good men gave Stuart the race and no bitching on here will change that...

Well done Stuart...

[joe61]

swilcox i dont have 2 accounts as you say you must have access to them so put them on the thread for all to see i know who you think i am but im not so tell people the facts and answear my post i ask a question and you come back with an accusation its your way to avoid giveing an answear people have minds of their own and would like to make it up for them self or is that what your scared of

 

oh happy days

 

ps if i told you who i am you would s**t a brick

[joe61]

why is it when someone askes a question they either dont get a stright answear or it starts a slaging match cmon guys be nice to each other

 

 

oh happy days

[Guest]

 

 

 

 

ps if i told you who i am you would s**t a brick

 

why ???????????????

 

dark_chequer = amanda richardson

dicky darky = dave barkel

 

who are you ?????????????????????????/

[Guest scoobybob]

why is it when someone askes a question they either dont get a stright answear or it starts a slaging match cmon guys be nice to each other

 

 

oh happy days

 

Yes agree with this....It may be just the way some questions are worded that folks slagging each other...

[Guest]

i think you forgot to lock it  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

ps well done stuart ;D