improbable velocity

[timbarra]

With regard to Stuart Wilcox result of gaining a result by default,

firstly improbably velocity means exactly that, but not impossible... so the disqualified pigeon could have done what the original result showed, however a panel has sat and reached a dicision to award the result by defult to MR STUART WILCOX and this result will stand unless an appeal is made in small claims court.

 

CONGRATULATIONS TO ANY WINNER OF A RACE, THIS TIME IT IS MR STUART WILCOX.  WELL DONE,

 

HOWEVER lets look at the panel and thats where the issue should be falling on , not stuart.

 

This panel of X ammount of people have reached a dicision based on no evidence substainciating any claim for the original winner to be disquailified.

 

NO body saw a pigeon escape.

NO body saw any discrepency with the clock or timing system

THE claim is improbable velocity, which is based on what evidence? ( improbably still means it is possible to be done)

 

No court in this or any country would entertain a claim as such, it would not be vindicated , and the original result would stand. However i think congratulations to Stuart should be give, its the panel of narrow minded, incompitant judicators who should be sacked from their potitions for basing their dicision on no evidence what so ever. farce.

 

the panel is at fault not Stuart Wilcox. he appealed and won .

 

spencer :o

 

[DOVEScot]

With regard to Stuart Wilcox result of gaining a result by default,

firstly improbably velocity means exactly that, but not impossible... so the disqualified pigeon could have done what the original result showed, however a panel has sat and reached a dicision to award the result by defult to MR STUART WILCOX and this result will stand unless an appeal is made in small claims court.

 

CONGRATULATIONS TO ANY WINNER OF A RACE, THIS TIME IT IS MR STUART WILCOX.  WELL DONE,

 

HOWEVER lets look at the panel and thats where the issue should be falling on , not stuart.

 

This panel of X ammount of people have reached a dicision based on no evidence substainciating any claim for the original winner to be disquailified.

 

NO body saw a pigeon escape.

NO body saw any discrepency with the clock or timing system

THE claim is improbable velocity, which is based on what evidence? ( improbably still means it is possible to be done)

 

No court in this or any country would entertain a claim as such, it would not be vindicated , and the original result would stand. However i think congratulations to Stuart should be give, its the panel of narrow minded, incompitant judicators who should be sacked from their potitions for basing their dicision on no evidence what so ever. farce.

 

the panel is at fault not Stuart Wilcox. he appealed and won .

 

spencer :o

 

I for one have never questioned Stuart, but how the improbable rule is implied. It seems to me like a farce if no evidence of the following

NO body saw a pigeon escape.

NO body saw any discrepency with the clock or timing system

Just seems a bit harsh on the guy who origonally won and has been stripped of the title through no fault of his own it seems :-/

[ch pied]

no need for a post-mortem , the result was overturned on the ground's of ,

improb , vel ,,,,case closed

[swilcox]

Alot of evidence was presented to the panel and that included evidence from the Race Sec, WOESRC, Committee Members and myself.

 

Weather conditions, results of our combine, other combines flying from east to west that day and past history. It was a short race with a short flying time which was also taken into account. There was in fact 17,605 pigeons released that morning flying the same route back into the west country and south wales, the pigeon that was removed was 100,s of yard in front of all of them, the 2nd fastest pigeon and the 3rd fastest which mine and won the WOESRC was seperated by a yard.

 

Spencer please comment as you will but be careful that its correct, evidence was presented to the WOESRC at a meeting but there wasnt a rule to decide the outcome so the RPRA was asked to make the final hearing.

 

By all means discuss improbable velocities but please leave my actual case out of it as the other party may still appeal. I have sat down with many officals and top fanciers both in our combine and out of it and they all agreed the velocity was improbable, these are people i respect and if any of them would have said stuart your wrong then i would have dropped it.

 

I wont be posting on this topic again.

 

Stuart

[timbarra]

Stuart,

Your post is noted, but think maybe you have taken it the wrong way, whatever evidence was presented ( i do not know the full story) I am sure the dicision was reached as the panel saw fit and correct.

 

I was not attacking or judging you in anyway, congratulations on a successful appeal.

 

regards spencer

[timbarra]

Dear members of Pigeon Basics,

I have spoken personally on the telephone with Stuart Wilcox, I would like to make it known publically at this point, that certain evidence was made available to the panel which conducted Stuart Wicox's hearing and appeal, I would like to stand corrected and offer my sincere apologies for mis-interperating original posts and posting an inaccurate post by myself in the thread.

Stuart Wilcox is a player with integrity and respect for the sport as a whole, and I for one offer my apologies to Stuart for any incorrect comments made by myself here.

 

I was wrong and I would like to congratulate Stuart on a fantastic result, which to if my information is correct, NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!!!!

 

Congratulations and may the good work and results continue Stuart,

 

best regards spencer Jackson  :X

[THE FIFER]

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