Young Birds Unwell Help Please

[Guest Owen]

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I appreciate what you say and I agree that when pigeons have a bacterial infection the treatment is relitively straight forward. Antibiotics and cleansing will definately have a beneficial effect on the disease. However, having heard Henk De Weerd on the subject of Paramixovirus I decided that I would try the treatment I outlined earlier. The way I saw it was that I had nothing to loose because I would not normally treat sick birds because I have found that they rarely come to anything. My usual policy is to wean the youngsters off and then check their progress over the next weeks and weed out any that were looking weak or sick. I am not normally prepared to keep pigeons that are unlikely to win races. This means means that they must be healthy before all else.

Before anyone jumps on my attitude I have to say that I know that I must have dumped birds that could have won races if I could have helped them over the dreaded YBS but the fact was that I just could not find a satisfactory treatment. Over the years my birds have had less and less health problems because I keep the youngsters on dry deep litter which allows them to build up their immunity to flock diseases and I reckon that my strict selection policy has also helped.

This year I bought in 10 youngsters from very good lofts and it was 2 of them that went wrong plus one of my own. I used the vaccination technique that I outlined earlier and all 3 are fine now. It is worth me mentioning that the one youngster was in a very bad state, crop full of stinking liquid, wasting away, hunched up in a corner and not eating.

The one slight observation about this bird was that the moult stopped for a short time, it was on darkness, only to restart and complete later.

James

[just ask me]

just ask me

I appreciate what you say and I agree that when pigeons have a bacterial infection the treatment is relitively straight forward. Antibiotics and cleansing will definately have a beneficial effect on the disease. However, having heard Henk De Weerd on the subject of Paramixovirus I decided that I would try the treatment I outlined earlier. The way I saw it was that I had nothing to loose because I would not normally treat sick birds because I have found that they rarely come to anything. My usual policy is to wean the youngsters off and then check their progress over the next weeks and weed out any that were looking weak or sick. I am not normally prepared to keep pigeons that are unlikely to win races. This means means that they must be healthy before all else.

Before anyone jumps on my attitude I have to say that I know that I must have dumped birds that could have won races if I could have helped them over the dreaded YBS but the fact was that I just could not find a satisfactory treatment. Over the years my birds have had less and less health problems because I keep the youngsters on dry deep litter which allows them to build up their immunity to flock diseases and I reckon that my strict selection policy has also helped.

This year I bought in 10 youngsters from very good lofts and it was 2 of them that went wrong plus one of my own. I used the vaccination technique that I outlined earlier and all 3 are fine now. It is worth me mentioning that the one youngster was in a very bad state, crop full of stinking liquid, wasting away, hunched up in a corner and not eating.

The one slight observation about this bird was that the moult stopped for a short time, it was on darkness, only to restart and complete later.

James

 

 

i agree that you should vaccinate at the first signs of Paramixovirus as a top vet told me this too apart from the sick birds he recommended that all birds should be done as by the time the virus spreads from one loft to the next the other loft will have a better chance of survival think i read that Raf Herbots would recommend this too but dont quote me on that

 

great posts owen pleanty of thought put into them

 

what birds you trying against your own owen

[Guest Owen]

I have a team of sprinters that are basically crosses of birds I have selected on performance. All 15 have won at Fed level and I hope to add a nice few young cocks to the team for next year. The basic blood is from Lambrecht, Camphuis, van Rijn, Willems, (a small specialist sprint loft from Belgium) and Fountainhead Janssen. This year I have bought in Coorimans, Armstrong and Wheatley and Karel Boex (I don't know how to spell this). All the birds will be tried on the road and I will keep the best to go on as yearlings. Next year I will transfer two brothers from the race team to stock because they have both won well for me at Fed level. At the moment I am trying to decide whether or not to transfer a lovely white cock to stock because he is so consistant. He has only been my first bird once this year but he has been right on the tail of the first birds and has won I think it is 4 Fed positions in the first 10 of the Fed. Besides all that I like the bird.

ATB

James

[just ask me]

I have a team of sprinters that are basically crosses of birds I have selected on performance. All 15 have won at Fed level and I hope to add a nice few young cocks to the team for next year. The basic blood is from Lambrecht, Camphuis, van Rijn, Willems, (a small specialist sprint loft from Belgium) and Fountainhead Janssen. This year I have bought in Coorimans, Armstrong and Wheatley and Karel Boex (I don't know how to spell this). All the birds will be tried on the road and I will keep the best to go on as yearlings. Next year I will transfer two brothers from the race team to stock because they have both won well for me at Fed level. At the moment I am trying to decide whether or not to transfer a lovely white cock to stock because he is so consistant. He has only been my first bird once this year but he has been right on the tail of the first birds and has won I think it is 4 Fed positions in the first 10 of the Fed. Besides all that I like the bird.

ATB

James

 

cooremans should do you a turn they will sprint that for sure louis only races sprint in aalst and they will do over 400 mile no problem at all