Fanciers Action Day 6

[preston powerblast]

Day six and now it's beginning to slow down a little. But I'm sorry guys I refuse to let this go.

I am surprised that lots of the bigger UK studs and bigger UK pigeon companies, have not even had the decency to respond to a simple email.

Well stuff em, this just goes to show what they really think of the fancy. They have took from it for years and now it's time to give something back to us, they not interested.

I have now decided to go further a field and enlist some of the help of the better well known European fanciers.

So come on guys push this action all the way.

I am even thinking of making an action list on the website, listing all the big companies I have sent emails to and the responses received.

Thanks for your support guys, you are the true champions of the fancy

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

WELLDONE MATE DOO IT .AND THAT LET US SEE WHO CARES AND WHO DOSENT ...KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MATE.///

[buster151]

keep the good work going Gaz

[preston powerblast]

Thanks guys, I appreciate your support.

That's me now for the day sending emails.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

WELLDONE MATE.///

[preston powerblast]

As promised I have spent the whole day sending emails here there and everywhere, so watch for some big names coming on the petition. I have had the thumbs up from PIPA and they are putting our article online on Thursday hopefully this will bring in some much needed attention to our cause. Below is a copy of the letter I have emailed emailed everyone that I could find.

Thanks for your continued support guys.

 

Hi,

Pigeon fancier here, just in case you think it’s one of those dodgy begging letters that find the way into everyone’s email accounts.

My name is Gary Burgess a pigeon fancier of many years.

I would just like to bring to your attention a campaign that we fanciers have now put together in a bid to save the fancy from dying.

This action is to get the fanciers in the UK and protest about the current issues surrounding the very serious problem that is affecting every fancier here in the UK.

That problem is the increasing numbers of birds of prey, which are now relentlessly attacking our birds on a daily basis.

We want this problem to be brought to the attention of the British Government and DEFRA as the RSPB just don’t want to know are accusing us of over exaggerating the whole issue.

Your help, would help give to credibility to the whole campaign and would in fact, protect all our interests for years to come.

Your help in this very serious matter would be greatly appreciated.

Kind Regards

Gary Burgess

On behalf of the British Pigeon Fanciers

 

http://saveourracingpigeons.yolasite.com/

 

http://www.change.org/petitions/save-our-racing-pigeons-debate-the-overpopulation-of-predatory-hawks-inhabiting-urban-areas

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

WELLDONE MATE.///

[victorious]

Day six and now it's beginning to slow down a little. But I'm sorry guys I refuse to let this go.

I am surprised that lots of the bigger UK studs and bigger UK pigeon companies, have not even had the decency to respond to a simple email.

Well stuff em, this just goes to show what they really think of the fancy. They have took from it for years and now it's time to give something back to us, they not interested.

I have now decided to go further a field and enlist some of the help of the better well known European fanciers.

So come on guys push this action all the way.

I am even thinking of making an action list on the website, listing all the big companies I have sent emails to and the responses received.

Thanks for your support guys, you are the true champions of the fancy

[victorious]

great job but why not try e mailing a few of the charites that we have gave thousands to over the years see if they care ,maybe worth a try.

[preston powerblast]

It may be worth getting a list together as they say nothing ventured.

Were beginning to get some better known names on the petition now.

[DAVIDL]

great job but why not try e mailing a few of the charites that we have gave thousands to over the years see if they care ,maybe worth a try.

 

 

i agree, the rpra /pigeon fanciers give thousands to charities/causes etc, yes they are mostly all worthy, but it would be nice if some of them could repay the favour and sign the petition.........350 signatures gary,

[preston powerblast]

It was much better than some predicted, but it has slowed right down now, the RSPB must be pissing themselves laughing.

That's the difference between us and them, they are dedicated. That's why we loose the fight every year mate.

Maybe I'd be better aiming it a European fanciers, I'm sure they would sign a damn site quicker.

[Guest Tooshy Boy]

IF THEY CANT HELP US WITH PETITION THEN WE CANT HELP THEM ANYMORE.///

[JohnQuinn]

It was much better than some predicted, but it has slowed right down now, the RSPB must be pissing themselves laughing.

That's the difference between us and them, they are dedicated. That's why we loose the fight every year mate.

Maybe I'd be better aiming it a European fanciers, I'm sure they would sign a damn site quicker.

 

 

Beg to differ Preston, the difference between them and us is about £90,000,000 and a legal department who's livelihoods depend on the RSPB and their protected species. We lose every year because in the general public's eyes our birds mean nothing but trouble and mess in the shopping centres, they don't differentiate between wild/feral pigeons and racers.

Our sport and the pleasure we get from it means nothing to them either. Put a peregrines nest 5 miles up a dirt track and literally hundreds of people will trek to see it every week of the year, because it has a Glamorous image in the eyes of the general public. Our problem is that image, until the public's perception of fanciers and racing pigeons changes no amount of signatures will change the law of the land. Not in the Majority of our lifetime's anyway. jmo.

 

 

[preston powerblast]

There you go again.

So lets pull the heads off all our pigeons and call it a day.

BULLSHIT.

It means nothing, OK they have a good legal department. So what.

I suppose next you'll be saying us fanciers will be applying for legal aid. WAKE UP MAN.

We live in a democracy, remember that word.

[JohnQuinn]

I am as entitled to my opinion as anyone and expressed it above, this despite having put my name to MANY petitions through the SHU and RPRA, on the subject of the bop problems we have. We, the SHU, have had politicians on our side addressing our concerns in parliament as well, all to no avail.

[preston powerblast]

Of course your right to your opinion, but why can't we see a positive opinion.

The RSPB rely on Raptor Study Groups set up all over the country, they report back to the RSPB.

A Ball park figure the fancy has say over 100,000.

What if we created our own study group, a hundred thousand individuals studying attacks on racing pigeons and reporting them back to a central body.

[THE FIFER]

just for interest from the general public, talking about getting youngsters in the sport I read in the paper today cubs from a scout group raised £428 for the RSPB's save Birds of Pray Appeal, they had saw it in the Bird Life Magazine so had a sponsored hike, The general public is the largest organisation going, so I would say its them we need on our side, let them know what the pigeon fanciers do for charities etc, the public dont know the half we do,and how important pigeons are in our lives, and the only way forward is negotiation, what we are doing with the petitions is great,its getting us heard, but we need to get the public educated, re pigeons, I was on the SHU council when they were hard at it, a lot of work went into it, the public dont know what we do, most of the charity work done by the RPRA show is published in the PIGEON papers, the public dont see this, apparently all the Unions have got together now as we know through the PIGEON papers,why dont they get it in the public papers what problems we are having and charities giving to, the TV cameras were at Blackpool, I think it showed it on the TV for about 2 min, but has anyone ever seen it in any of the papers other than pigeon papers the money from Blackpool thats given out to charities, that is just my views,and as said yes the petitions going now are doing good,and a lot of hard work,

[preston powerblast]

The work the SHU put in was phenomenal, I have got a hard drive with it all on. Your right about the public too.

But what really gets me, is fanciers just cannot be bothered.

In fact if we looked back in history all great victories, were won by armies, that were out numbered, outmatched and on paper had no chance.

How did they win?

Sheer determination.

If this was in my Grandpa's day, I'm afraid everyone would be in jail now.

We have gone soft, we just cannot be bothered.

I'm sorry but along with the other 599 fanciers, im going to be the biggest pain the ass there is.

I just wish people could see, the determination I have to take this mammoth task on.

We just need to motivate people, think of the positives instead of wallowing in the negatives.

Thats all im saying.

[THE FIFER]

just a thought m8,would it be any good to also pass the petitions on to the UNIONS as well to let them see we want something done, after all its in their interest and their job to do something, also would it not be a good thing to include song birds in our petition, this would bring in non fanciers maybe

[JohnQuinn]

Of course your right to your opinion, but why can't we see a positive opinion.

The RSPB rely on Raptor Study Groups set up all over the country, they report back to the RSPB.

A Ball park figure the fancy has say over 100,000.

What if we created our own study group, a hundred thousand individuals studying attacks on racing pigeons and reporting them back to a central body.

 

The Scottish Homing Union had a study of sorts, members were asked to send pics of injured birds that were Obviously attacked by BOP on their own doorsteps or the ones lucky enough to survive an attack whilst racing/training. The response was at best tepid.

IF there was an organised event say, to promote the fancy and explain the effects that BOP has on ALL other species of birds i would be first to buy a ticket and encourage everyone i know to attend too.

imo the petitions sent to politicians and other individuals who have had OUR interests at heart were enough to change views or at least start a constructive discussion between interested parties but it hasn't happened.

We had fanciers licensed to catch Sparrow Hawks for repatriation elsewhere, the applications for the license were relevantly few and the success of the study was undermined by this.

More fanciers (including myself) would have taken up the offer if they were able to dispose of the BOP's trapped, but not to let them off in another area just to attack fellow fanciers flocks.

So forgive my apathy for yet another petition but as you can see it has proven futile up to now despite our best efforts and YEARS of hard work by the SHU Secretary Linda Brooks.

ATB with your efforts on this but please remember to enjoy your birds too and don't let the certain disappointments and obstacles drive you out of the sport. Cheers John.

[THE FIFER]

we also kept the dead birds in our fridges and sent them to Linda,

[preston powerblast]

Your right mate it is their job, but do you think that they will spend thousands of pounds 6 months man power to create a study, employ company of legal representatives and University professors to compile a study and then a concise application to parliament, knowing it's members have no confidence in the action.

No they would rather not have the hassle and go and spend our money enjoying themselves at charity dinners and giving all our money away.

That's the top and bottom of it.

[preston powerblast]

I know guys I'm in possession of the full report

RACING PIGEONS – IMPACT OF RAPTOR PREDATION

Report to

SCOTTISH NATURAL HERITAGE

&

SCOTTISH HOMING UNION