goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 what is the smallest loft possible and whats the smallest number of birds one could keep. im after just a few rollers or some weird flying breed still looking into it. but dont have the space for a large loft at mo as have another bird taht would get abit upset to say the least lol. could anyone post some pics of there set up if on the compact side of things. cheres atb lee
just ask me Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 8x4 garden shed with 10 to 12 birds would do the trick
goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 wow thats more space than i thought would be needed for that many birds.
Leroy Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 I currently keep my racers in two kit box type lofts. The biggest is 4 feet x 3 feet, and 3 feet high. It is on legs, like a large rabbit hutch, with a wire front, and a wire bottom, but also a solid bottom that slides in and out. I have 8 birds in there at the moment and wouldnt like to keep anymore. It wouldnt be any good for breeding purposes though. Oh it also has a small all-wire flight attached to the front so the birds can look around!
just ask me Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 well an avery would allow u to keep more im sure a search of the net u will find more pics than u will ever want
Guest joshdonlan Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Rollers can be kept in a kit box 20 rollers could live in a 5 x5 ply box, but not be able to breed in there.
Guest Freebird Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 Smallest number I would keep is 2 as it ain't fair to keep one on it's own. If they get out to free fly then a hutch 3ft X 2ft X 2ft would do them but obviously the more space the better. Tumblers and rollers are smaller birds than racers. Like racers, tumblers need to be from good flying/performing stock, trained, properly fed, fit and healthy to achieve good results. Don't expect to buy a couple of birds and have them performing straight away. Like everything else, there's more to it than meets the eye.
goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 Smallest number I would keep is 2 as it ain't fair to keep one on it's own. If they get out to free fly then a hutch 3ft X 2ft X 2ft would do them but obviously the more space the better. Tumblers and rollers are smaller birds than racers. Like racers, tumblers need to be from good flying/performing stock, trained, properly fed, fit and healthy to achieve good results. Don't expect to buy a couple of birds and have them performing straight away. Like everything else, there's more to it than meets the eye. cheers again freebird, yer im gathing that theres more into it. i thought they would be farly low maintance but looks like i maybe wrong. id like my birds free flight for sure. i was hoping to get about 5 to 8. pluss could us them to help train my dog. as i have a german pointer that finds and flushes pheasant and pigeon i have been told smells very much like pheasant scent. i know alot of dog trainers keep homers to train on but i though if i kept some birds i would rather they be abit more interesting than just a normal homer, so though the tubllers would be good. i could easy fit that on the side of my shed i think.
goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 http://www.parlorroller.com/images/loftHouseRight.jpg like this? i could fit this in
goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 nice setup baz, when i move ill deffo get a good sizes loft and have a few birds i think.
blaz Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 we got of on the wrong foot yesterday if your are serious best of luck to you tumbler pigeons can give you a lot of fun i had them years ago
Guest Freebird Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 cheers again freebird, yer im gathing that theres more into it. i thought they would be farly low maintance but looks like i maybe wrong. id like my birds free flight for sure. i was hoping to get about 5 to 8. pluss could us them to help train my dog. as i have a german pointer that finds and flushes pheasant and pigeon i have been told smells very much like pheasant scent. i know alot of dog trainers keep homers to train on but i though if i kept some birds i would rather they be abit more interesting than just a normal homer, so though the tubllers would be good. i could easy fit that on the side of my shed i think. It's like everything else, once you’ve done it a while and have a routine ( if you can ) they do pretty much look after themselves. The main thing is keep them on the hungry side so they are controllable. I think given that you are into the country ways with hawks and gundogs etc. you would end up getting serious with the doos as well and appreciate them for what they are and that is a VERY versatile wee bird that has been bred for a variety of pastimes and has been around humans for thousands of years. I for one feel very privileged to have birds that have genetic traits for colour, form and performance gained over many century's by the hard work of dedicated pigeon breeders. Have fun.
goshawk Posted May 20, 2009 Author Report Posted May 20, 2009 :)cheers guys, yer im finding it all very interesting. all the genetics. like kennel club in dogs really.
Guest ljb107 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 nice setup baz, when i move ill deffo get a good sizes loft and have a few birds i think. Have you kept pigeons before? If not I don't think you should be getting into the rare unusual flying breeds too soon. Maybe go for birmingham rollers or wolverhampton tumblers first. Lloyd
flyingteessider Posted May 20, 2009 Report Posted May 20, 2009 I recently today housed 12 yearlings in a bin about 3x2
Guest Freebird Posted May 22, 2009 Report Posted May 22, 2009 :)cheers guys, yer im finding it all very interesting. all the genetics. like kennel club in dogs really. Not, pigeons dinnae bite! and they can fly. (evil)
goshawk Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Posted May 23, 2009 Not, pigeons dinnae bite! and they can fly. (evil) or right then. lol not quite the same
just ask me Posted May 23, 2009 Report Posted May 23, 2009 if for traindogs mate racers might be better as if u go too far with tumblers there homing abilty is not the best im not sure what your plans are
goshawk Posted May 23, 2009 Author Report Posted May 23, 2009 well it is racers that other ppl us to help train there gun dogs but i was hoping that i could use rollers as its them that apeal to me. but after reading a fare bit over the last few days and like you said mybe they wont be suited. so maybe illl just get a few pigeons for myself then :X and just hope i find enough game for my pup.
just ask me Posted May 23, 2009 Report Posted May 23, 2009 well it is racers that other ppl us to help train there gun dogs but i was hoping that i could use rollers as its them that apeal to me. but after reading a fare bit over the last few days and like you said mybe they wont be suited. so maybe illl just get a few pigeons for myself then :X and just hope i find enough game for my pup. could allways get your favourite kind and maybe 2 racers to train the dogs just a tought
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