Catalonian Tumblers

[Guest Freebird]

Old Yellow was saying there was some interest in the Catalonian tumblers and that the pictures had dis-appeared from my thread since the site was changed over. http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/topic/3141-some-pics-of-my-catalonian-tumblers/page__p__55311__fromsearch__1entry55311

 

He asked me to put up some more pic's so here you are.

 

[OLDYELLOW]

Cheers Freebird , these birds have been originaly bred to out fly falcons , alot of roller and other breeds are suffering from bop attacks , i believe these would make an ideal alternative , plenty of different colours could also be decoy birds when your racers are flying

[BLUERON]

nice birds mate we have rollers.and have one just like that one in 4 photo.

[sapper756]

Very nice pictures of some smart birds m8http://forum.pigeonbasics.org/public/style_emoticons/default/wink.gif

[Guest Freebird]

nice birds mate we have rollers.and have one just like that one in 4 photo.

This one? He is my "Pink Cat"

 

 

 

 

[ap2010]

Great pigeons. Really like the "cold wintery" picture. Plus you have some excellent colours.

 

I have heard about flying these pigeons to avoid hawk attacks

[Guest Owen]

I did not think any pigeon or dove could outfly a falcon. Is this really true and how do they do it? And has anyone actually seen them do it?

[Guest Freebird]

I did not think any pigeon or dove could outfly a falcon. Is this really true and how do they do it? And has anyone actually seen them do it?

 

http://www.cichlidlovers.com/birds_cats_bill_hart.htm

 

http://www.cichlidlovers.com/birds_cats_by_bodio.htm

[Guest Freebird]

I did not think any pigeon or dove could outfly a falcon. Is this really true and how do they do it? And has anyone actually seen them do it?

 

Owen, Catalonians are unique in the fact that they come in all known colours/patterns some of which are not seen on any other breed, “with a wardrobe of a thousand coloursâ€. The reason for this was not for showing but it is said they were also once used as “thief†pigeons like the modern day horseman but I think these birds worked in kits rather than single and each fancier developed his own unique colour/pattern so they knew which fancier the captured bird belonged to and there could be no arguing as to ownership etc. I have read somewhere as well they are highflyers but have never seen my birds do this. It is said they were used to compete against falcons and I presume these were falconer’s captive hunting birds and I would imagine they out witted rather than flying faster making that swift change of direction a millisecond just before impact? As I said in the original link they are very competent flyers, I quote “Only had one hawk this year so far and I was in the loft, birds out when the old birds came in fast from the wee aviary. By the time I got out the youngsters were high up and scattered and I could only count 13 out of 14. Had a look around the area, nothing. When they eventually came down 14 so I gather one was being chased at the time I counted but I cannot confirm this as I did not see any hawk. They were spooky next day and whilst flying normally a wood pigeon came out over a tree suddenly and the birds dropped a gear accelerated and split and I actually seen one do a 180 degree turn lightning fast to fly in the opposite direction which seemed impossible and I was well impressed†I think in the right hands, someone with plenty experience of flying birds could have them doing whatever they want. I just let them walk all over me, He He He! I’m too soft. They seem only to have breeding on their minds these days. They are a small, lively bird, full of character and always up for a good scrap. Because the breed is so vast I believe they probably were used for all the above and more, maybe having specialist subgroups within the overall breed. Anyway, who knows? I like them, can you tell? I’ve just had a thought. Let’s say because of the hawk problem the art of flying Birmingham rollers dies out but some people still kept them because they look pretty. One hundred years down the line, the story’s of little pigeons that would roll (drop) up to 50 feet in a constant series of backward summersaults, spinning so fast you had to slow the film down to count the rolls, would you believe it? Or the same with the mighty racing pigeon, if racing ceased today would your ancestors believe the story of†Great, great, great grandfathers blue bar racer that made it home covering 600 and odd miles on the same day “(without GPS ) I think we take all these things the wee doo is capable of and the sheer genius of the fanciers that started way back thousands of years ago moulding the rock dove into what we have today for granted. Power to the wee doos, He He He! Sorry to waffle on guy’s.

[THE FIFER]

nice birds and interesting

[Guest wattle]

did any peregrines have a go at them yet,

[BLUERON]

This one? He is my "Pink Cat"

 

 

 

 

yes mate thats the one

[OLDYELLOW]

Bump as relevant via another topic

[Guest IB]

Are these related to Oriental Flying Rollers? Background info seems identical.

 

http://www.orientalrollers.com/

[OLDYELLOW]

Are these related to Oriental Flying Rollers? Background info seems identical.

 

http://www.orientalrollers.com/

I'd imagine they are as look like the same type the Chinese put the whistles on But these have been developed to out fly falcons

[Guest peter4pm]

they look very much like mookies

[Guest Freebird]

they look very much like mookies

Only the white cap is similar and this is only one of the vast paterns these birds come in. These are flying birds first and foremost. Their conformation is more like the homer and built for flying. Colour and pattern come second in selection unlike most other "fancy breeds" where colour and pattern are selected first resulting in birds that can hardly even fly. He He! Peter, these ain't no Mookies. Have a look at this link. These are only a few of the patterns and remember these birds have to fly as well as look good:

http://www.clubcolomvolcatala.org/Club_del_Colom_de_Vol_Catala/Patrones.html