widowhood cocks

[Guest southern and mason]

hi all wot wud u say wud b the best size section 2 put 15 widowhood cocks in

[Guest shadow]

hi all wot wud u say wud b the best size section 2 put 15 widowhood cocks in

 

 

8X6

 

 

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

12x 6 i have two 8x6 sections and will be keeping 8 cocks in each section

[PIGEON_MAN]

hi all wot wud u say wud b the best size section 2 put 15 widowhood cocks in

 

Would say it all depends on what size your going to have your boxes and how your going to set them out,3 sets of 5 which would probably be two tall but less width or you could put 5 sets of 3 which would be a lot wider,then again you could have 4 sets of 4 making 1spare or have 16 cocks.

[Guest southern and mason]

am gettin a new loft 24ft by 8ft. 3 sections of 8ft by 8ft  and a wantd 2 put 15 cocks in the 2 end sections and 30 hens in the middle section wot do u thimk 2 that or is ther 2 many pigeons

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

sounds gd to me

[Guest southern and mason]

it shud b ok that number ov birds?

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

yes mate they will be fine in my imo

[Guest Owen]

I go with Rocky and Rambo. If you have two sections of 6X6 you can have 8 boxes in each. With widowhood cocks, less is more.

I have 16 boxes but only fly 12 birds. 6 are two year old and up, and the other 6 are yearlings.

I also work the bull system from the widowhood sections. I put a grill between the pair and I then mate the hen with a Bull. The widower rears the young as his own and I have better youngsters.

At the end of the year I will always remove the older cocks to keep them at 6, and obviously I bring the best young cocks in to maintain the 6 yearling numbers.

On small point. Make sure you think carefully about the ventilation. It will make or break your performances.

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

hey thats a gd idea owen never thought about mateing a bull cock with the widowhood hens . have to make sure you have top class widoowhood hens then

[Guest southern and mason]

am left wit 65 ybs. av gt 18 old birds off last year which am keepin so a had a luk threw them the other day av gt 45 cocks and 38 hens

so a wntd 2 put 15 cocks 1 section 30 hens in the middle then 15 cocks in the other section but am nt sure if ther will b anuf space in the 8ft x 8ft sections

[mark croker]

yea mate you will, I have 16 in a 8x6, my boxes are standared widowhood boxes with 1 row off each front cut off( I think they are about 23 inch) and the same depth as normal, you have to have them same depth (14 1/4) or they dont work,

[Guest Owen]

Rocky and Rambo

if you fly total widowhood, like me, you will give your young bird hens every race. And some will win. Then because you will end up with a surplus of hens you will pick the best. Some say that widowhood is a waste of good hens. It is not, because you will end up with a tremendous team of breeding hens. All proven and all selected by performance. And don't forget, that a lot of them will be related to your good cocks. I have found that my system is making the pigeons better year on year. Another benefit is, the fact that some pairs do not work together as breeding couples. But, because you will pair your Bull Cocks to, say, 6 hens each, they will soon show you which couples actually work. And when you write out the pedigrees, it is really nice to write down all the prizewinners that will be in all your youngsters. My birds are not all good but they all, without exception, have a winning parent or parents.  

[pjc]

Most std widowhood boxes are 30" wide and the max would normaly be 4 high so in an 8x6 you would only get 12 boxes.

[Guest southern and mason]

myn r up and over boxes 22" wide so 4 high 4 across wud get u 16