Floor Dressing

[BOND111]

I recently visited a fancier who was trying a new floor dressing.It looked pretty much like cat litter granules.But he told me that it was very absorbent and treated for coxi.The name of the product escapes me,but has anyone any experience of similar products.I currently use easi bed which I clear every week and have to store for four weeks as the council tip will only allow me one pet waste permit per month.Which they are planning to change in January.Any imfo would be appreciated.

[Guest IB]

Firstly, the product you are look for is probably Natural Granules.

 

http://www.natural-granen.com/#undefined/Contact/GRANULATED_FLOORCOVERING

 

Secondly, pigeon droppings are bagged and binned in the local council land-fill bin along with general household refuse. That's what the General Race License tells us to with them, and that's what I have been doing with them for past 6/7 years without complaint. No different from the more-recent disposal instructions for doggy bags.

[BOND111]

Firstly, the product you are look for is probably Natural Granules.

 

http://www.natural-granen.com/#undefined/Contact/GRANULATED_FLOORCOVERING

 

Secondly, pigeon droppings are bagged and binned in the local council land-fill bin along with general household refuse. That's what the General Race License tells us to with them, and that's what I have been doing with them for past 6/7 years without complaint. No different from the more-recent disposal instructions for doggy bags.

I have had this conversation so many times with with management at SITA and BIFA who run most of the waste management sites i the UK or so they tell me.For ten years I desposed of the easi bed waste in the green waste with no problems.But ever since the bird flu scare a few years back they now insist we use the yellow sacks marked PET WASTE.If these restrictions have not effected you yet,you are lucky.But they will.

[JohnQuinn]

I recently visited a fancier who was trying a new floor dressing.It looked pretty much like cat litter granules.But he told me that it was very absorbent and treated for coxi.The name of the product escapes me,but has anyone any experience of similar products.I currently use easi bed which I clear every week and have to store for four weeks as the council tip will only allow me one pet waste permit per month.Which they are planning to change in January.Any imfo would be appreciated.

 

Think i have used the same product in the past, it is Spill Dry or Oil Spill same thing. It came from the steel works where it was used to absorb spillages of oil. Great for the huts and dry's out the droppings almost on impact. HIGHLY recommend it if you can put your hands on it. Recently i have only been able to find a sponge like product that is now used in the works but it is no use.

If you manage to get the right stuff pm me where it is please

[Guest peter4pm]

i use cat litter ...does the same job matey ..stick down about 2 two 3 inches and just rake the droppings off the top every week or so ...much cheaper...i use the cheap stuff from morrisons ..does the job ideal

[Guest peter4pm]

Think i have used the same product in the past, it is Spill Dry or Oil Spill same thing. It came from the steel works where it was used to absorb spillages of oil. Great for the huts and dry's out the droppings almost on impact. HIGHLY recommend it if you can put your hands on it. Recently i have only been able to find a sponge like product that is now used in the works but it is no use.

If you manage to get the right stuff pm me where it is please

 

 

hey john ...is this the stuff your talking about ?? http://www.clean4less.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=653

[JohnQuinn]

Thats it mate, great for the loft floors

 

 

I tried the cat litter too but it sticks to your shoes something terrible. This gear doesn't.

[Guest peter4pm]

think the shipping charge for it would be expensive ..companys based down south i think

 

yea ive got grills john so i dont get anything on my shoes..but i know what you mean though

[BOND111]

Ive seen the ones that are used in garages etc for moping up spillages.My only concern would be that it looks very like grit.So would it harm the birds if they were to peck at the granules. If possible I would like to get the ones that are specific for pigeons.Thank's for the replies so far.

[JohnQuinn]

Ive seen the ones that are used in garages etc for moping up spillages.My only concern would be that it looks very like grit.So would it harm the birds if they were to peck at the granules. If possible I would like to get the ones that are specific for pigeons.Thank's for the replies so far.

 

Never affected my birds in the slightest, don't know if they ate it or not but it never done any harm, its a god send

[Fair Play]

Used the granules 20yrs ago got them from the work does the job but really messy and yo find find them in the strangest places

[retired]

With your easibed, best bet would be to find someone with an allotment or compost heap and let them have it

[Wiley]

why change your easi bed every week? How thick are you putting it down?

[Guest IB]

I have had this conversation so many times with with management at SITA and BIFA who run most of the waste management sites i the UK or so they tell me.For ten years I desposed of the easi bed waste in the green waste with no problems.But ever since the bird flu scare a few years back they now insist we use the yellow sacks marked PET WASTE.If these restrictions have not effected you yet,you are lucky.But they will.

 

Sorry you are having this bother with disposal. I can only advise what I myself was told to do a number of years ago when I had a potential problem with neighbours threatening to go to Environmental Health over flies which they claimed were being caused by my pigeons.

 

At that time I mixed droppings with soil and bagged it up using heavy plasic haps and kept it over the winter for compost the following spring. Didn't know at the time, but heat the compost generated attracted flies to lay eggs on the hap. I did notice those eggs but I thought they were pine needles fallen from nearby hedge. Come spring / summer these eggs hatched out and flies ended up in my neighbour's house.

 

Anyway I phoned Environmental Health and got them out and was told to bag and bin the droppings.

 

The General Race Licence came about because of bird flu, and the same paragraph re disposal is still in Appendix 1:-

 

• All litter and manure is disposed of in a manner which does not present a risk of spread of the disease, e.g. in sealed bags for normal refuse collection, so that other birds do not have direct access to it.

 

So based on my own experience, I would not be happy storing pigeon waste on my property for a month. I've deep litter but I still do perches etc daily, and its straight into a polly bag tied and binned every day. Our green bin is emptied by Local Council every two weeks.

 

Our club also bags the waste from the race baskets. Used to dispose of it same way until Council decided we were a business and wanted to charge business rates. So our Secy now takes it to Council Landfill. Only restriction they've placed on us is that it must be bagged.

[BOND111]

Sorry you are having this bother with disposal. I can only advise what I myself was told to do a number of years ago when I had a potential problem with neighbours threatening to go to Environmental Health over flies which they claimed were being caused by my pigeons.

 

At that time I mixed droppings with soil and bagged it up using heavy plasic haps and kept it over the winter for compost the following spring. Didn't know at the time, but heat the compost generated attracted flies to lay eggs on the hap. I did notice those eggs but I thought they were pine needles fallen from nearby hedge. Come spring / summer these eggs hatched out and flies ended up in my neighbour's house.

 

Anyway I phoned Environmental Health and got them out and was told to bag and bin the droppings.

 

The General Race Licence came about because of bird flu, and the same paragraph re disposal is still in Appendix 1:-

 

• All litter and manure is disposed of in a manner which does not present a risk of spread of the disease, e.g. in sealed bags for normal refuse collection, so that other birds do not have direct access to it.

 

So based on my own experience, I would not be happy storing pigeon waste on my property for a month. I've deep litter but I still do perches etc daily, and its straight into a polly bag tied and binned every day. Our green bin is emptied by Local Council every two weeks.

 

Our club also bags the waste from the race baskets. Used to dispose of it same way until Council decided we were a business and wanted to charge business rates. So our Secy now takes it to Council Landfill. Only restriction they've placed on us is that it must be bagged.

I agree with you totally.Its crazy having to go to great lengths just to dump what is really just compost.With changing the litter each week,90% of the waste is easi bed.We used to have one old chap looking after the tip,which serviced one village.Now It is run by SITA we have five young men on at all times.One to stand guard over each skip and check your rubbish as it goes in.For years we used to all chuck the pigeon muck loose into the green waste.

My friend who is in his eighty's cleans out each day into a carrier bag and puts it in the bin.He has now been told that his bin wont be emptied if he carries on.He keeps no more than ten pairs.So you can imagine how few droppings there are.Thank's for all the reply's.