Logans?

[Peckedhen]

I am looking for white racing pigeons possibly to start dove release, in the future, if I can train the birds.

 

There is an advertisement in BHW for white Logans. Has anyone heard of these and would they be suitable for this?    :-/ :-/

 

What are your opinions on starting afresh with birds? Would you go for two breeding pairs and build up from those or, buy perhaps 10 young birds, train them next spring and hope that you don't lose too many and have enough left to breed the following year.  ??

 

Any advice much appreciated.

[westy]

i had some logans once but i lost them they were only young and got bred for me,i realy dont know if they are good for this if it was me i would get a couple of white tumblers.

martin   (westy)

[Guest shadow]

If you want some white logans or some white sprint pigeons John Crowder has some for sale in the homing world. You will need homing pigeons for the job I know the call them dove release but you will find if you liberate doves or other fancy white birds they are liable to get lost and you will allways be replacing them.Depending on how many you intend to liberate each time will determine how many you want to keep. I would start with two pair and run the eggs under feeders. Good Luck.

[Guest]

A GUY IN DUNDEE KEEPS WHITE RACERS BRINGS THEM OVER FROM BELGIUM,HE DOES'NT KEEP VERY WELL. I CAN FIND OUT IF HE'S SELLING ANY IF YOU WANT.

[Guest speckled]

Hi peckedhen.il ive close toa fancier who does the Dove realeases for wedding & funneral, ect thay also breed a lot of white pigeons for there buissness so if ya email me thought the forum.i will give ya the details.cheers speckled

[snowy]

after a couple of white logans myself, a local said he would breed me a couple in spring! cant wait!

[Peckedhen]

What do you kow about them Snowy?

 

 

[deeman]

hi peckedhen

i've got some white racers of belgium stock i will be more than happy to breed some ybs next year for you if you want will only cost carriage

 

[Peckedhen]

Thanks everyone. I've replied via PM.

 

Pecked Hen

[snowy]

pecked hen, the guy i know said these logans are good longdistance birds, they are 700 mile stock, so i will find out more for you.

regards snowy.

[PIGEON_MAN]

THE LOGAN PIGEONS ARE A VERY OLD STRAIN WHICH WERE VERY GOOD AT THE DISTANCE RACING BUT NOT TO SURE WHERE THE WHITE ONES CAME FROM.IF I REMEMBER FROM READING ABOUT HIM J.W. LOGAN WAS OFTEN CLASSED AS ONE OF

THE GREATEST FIGURES IN THE HISTORY OF BRITISH PIGEON RACING.HE WOULD OFTEN PUSCHASE THE WINNERS OF THE BIG RACES OF HIS TIME AND BUILT UP HIS FAMILY OF PIGEONS FROM THEM.ONE OF HIS FAMOUS PIGEONS "OLD 86" CAN STILL BE SEEN ON THE FRONT OF THE RACING PIGEON EACH WEEK,HAVE QUITE A BIT ON J.W.LOGAN IF ANYONE WANTS TO KNOW MORE.

[Peckedhen]

Thanks Pigeon Man. I have a link here if anyone else is interested:

 

http://www.pigeonbasics.com/articles/article123.html

[jimmy white]

was champion virgo not a white one am i right in saying that was a kirkpatrick, then there used to be the white plentycx[ spelt wrong]  then there was the humberside stud used to have hundreds of whites,,,tonies tornados,,not sure if they were tornados though, i really dont think colour makes much differance, its just that there are less of them racing, so, every one to their fancy.

[Guest ben]

Hi Jimmy,

             Virgo certainly was no champion,just because the yb nat birds had a stronger wind up their ass the further up country they went that day,fountainhead lofts should know better,but i suppose some people will say anything to make money,by the way,virgo was a grizzle,withSplash of red

Just another 1 hit wonder,a true champion`s prove themselves time and time again,especially when getting off the deck to win.

[jimmy white]

any pigeon that wins a national is a champion, no exuses

[snowy]

a few sites of interest peckedhen

http://www.whiteracers.20m.com/photo4.html

http://www.geocities.com/sudiloft/

http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/1562/

 

[Guest ben]

Hi Jimmy,

               You should know better than to say that,any new starters or novices reading this could beput on the wrong footing...there are nat,and nat`s ...look at the massive rise in "so called Nat winners" JUST TO MAKE MONEY  out of fanciers who are a bit thick,130 mile champions..it`s laughable!!!!

[PIGEON_MAN]

BEN,AGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT YOU SAY BUT A NATIONAL IS A NATIONAL WEATHER IT BE FROM 130 MILES OR 630 MILES AND WEATHER IT IS AGAINST 1300 BIRDS OR 6300 BIRDS ITS STILL AS TO BE WON.PERSONALLY I THINK TO MUCH IS MADE OUT OF THE YOUNGSTERS OF THESE RACES WITH PEOPLE PAYING REDICULOUS PRICES FOR THEM AND EXPECTING THEM TO DO THE SAME.

[jimmy white]

ben , if you look at the original post it is about white pigeons. i was merely conversating, along the lines of the post, WHITE PIGEONS, nothing to do with nat winners, nothing to do with fountainhall stud, and nothing to do with selling pigeons i was merely   pointing out that champion virgo was near white, that was the name given to the bird, by the owner,  there are other posts, for what you are on about. i regret putting on that post, following the tone of yours,  my, sir colin ,was a champion ,but he wasnt a knight?? one other thing ben , i would never , on purpose, put any novices on the wrong footing, completely the opposite.

i realise your point about about certain money makers ,and if you look through my  posts you will see the advice i have given novices,about that, i think maybe ,ben we have both taken the wrong context of each others posts. nothing that cant be put right, wish you well ben,    jimmy  

[MsPigeon]

Hi Peckedhen,

I have been raising and racing white birds for about 5 years now, I have been racing for about 15 years. It has been a long haul to say the least. In the begining I lost about 90% of the whites. I do a few releases a year but my main goal was to develop a family of whites that can race with the best of them. I am finally wining races with my whites. I didn't buy expensive fancy name stock though. Maybe that would be quicker. I was just given a white bird here and a white bird there as the guys in our club don't like them much. From those I only bred the best flyers together and then introduced a few new boughten birds in the last year, like Bandits. But for the most part they are just racing homers that happen to be white. They are a beautiful sight when they fly and I have enjoyed developing them a lot. I wish you luck, just be patient and don't expect a whole team of good flying white birds the first year.

Yours in the sport.

Carol

[Guest ben]

Opoligies to you jimmy ,i never for 1 moment thought to offend yourself.

[Guest shadow]

Ben I do not know where you got your information from but Virgo was completley white and was bred and owned by Mr M Barrett who was a partner in Fountainhead Lofts. I have handled the bird and can assure you it was white

[jimmy white]

no oppologies needed ben, and no offence taken either   :)

[Guest ben]

Hi Shadow,

               I was sure it was a spash griz in the pictures when he won as as youngbird?maybe i had **** in my eyes,(which ain`t unusual)or it could possibly be that you may  handled virgo after the moult,could have been a tiger griz,or cross white/tigergriz,which could have easily molted out white?perhaps if you remember the eye-colour,if they were normal,this will tell us virgo carried the griz gene,if bull the white/pied.

                Regards

I was thinking,i bet fountainhead have bred 100,s if not 1,000s down from virgo,would`nt it be intresting to find out if anything off it ever scored in a decent distance race,have fountainhead got a website?

[jimmy white]

i would class virgo as a white pigeon, it was full of the best of kirkpatrick breeding.

in the 2004 bicc barcelona  syd and bill knox were first and second , both these birds related to virgo,,,,if im ever to get another champion  i think ill call it   DENIM,as its all in the jeans, good luck to all, jimmy