BIRD FLU IN FIFE

[THE FIFER]

SOME AREAS GETTING REVEWED ON THE 20TH APRIL, OTHERS IN 30DAYS IF NO OTHER BIRDS FOUND WITH THE VIRUS.

[Guest]

BIRDS TO BE KEPT IN ROSE >  THIS IS HOW FAR I'M AWAY FROM THE A90, IF I KEPT BIRDS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ROAD IT WOULD BE OK TO LET THEM OUT  :'(

[jimmy white]

fifer, would i be able to take one single pigeon in to inverkiething,from edin, ?

dont think it could be termed s a gathering. but would like to make sure

[Guest]

Copied from Scottish Executive website:

 

Bird flu update

10/04/2006

 

No new positive tests for H5N1 avian flu emerged over the weekend.

 

A 3km Protection Zone is currently in force around the location, restricting the movement of poultry and poultry products.

 

A 10km Surveillance Zone has also been set up within which extra monitoring is taking place.

 

Under a decision by the European Commission, the Protection Zone will be in place for a minimum of 21 days and the Surveillance Zone for 30 days following confirmation of the case of H5N1 on Wednesday 4th April.

 

The decision on ending the zones is dependent on whether or not any more birds are found to have the virus.

 

The Executive has also set up a Wild Bird Risk Area on 2,500 sq km to the east of the A90 and M90, stretching from Stonehaven in the north to the Forth Road Bridge in the south. Within this area all poultry has to be housed and, if this is not possible, separated from contact with wild birds.

 

 

[THE FIFER]

I PERSONALLY DO NOT SEE ANY PROBLEM JIMMY IT'S NOT GETTING OUT IS IT. IN THIS AREA ITS BIRDS HAVE TO BE KEPT IN

[jimmy white]

thanks fifer and clockie  

[peterpau]

Clockman tiz good to see you back but sorry to see you're that close to the boundry best o' luck old lad

[Peckedhen]

Sorry Clockie - I can see how frustrating this must be for you. :'(  Got everything crossed for you that they won't find anymore infected birds.

 

[THE FIFER]

there seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the wild bird risk area, whether or not u are alowed to let birds out, that's the 10k area, the word i got from shu today was yes u must keep ur birds in.

[Guest]

THE WILD BIRD AREA IS THE ONE I'M ARCHIE :-/

[THE FIFER]

YES ME TOO, BUT A LOT THINK U CAN LET BIRDS OUT, I DON'T THINK SO, WILL HAVE TO HAVE A LOOK ON DEFRA.

[Guest]

THEY CAN THINK WHAT THEY WANT  :-/

[deeman]

 

fifer i live in glenrothes which is in the wild bird risk area and was told birds to be kept in no free flying by AHDO vet in perth

[THE FIFER]

I AGREE, I DO NOT THINK U CAN LET THEM OUT, I THINK THE FEDS AND SHU SHOULD HAVE PUT OUT NOTICES. AS EVERYONE DOES NOT HAVE A PC, AND NOT GOT PIGEON BASICS TO KEEP THEM IN TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING AND GET THE INFO WE DOO.

[Guest]

SHU MEMBERS GETTING  NOTICES SOON  

[deeman]

 

Jimmy i think that would be okay was speaking to AHDO vet on saturday regarding getting some birds from doncaster this week to see if i needed to get a licence or what he told me that it would be alright to bring them up without a licence as i'm not in the surveillance zone

[Guest]

My reading of the legislation that covers the wild bird risk area (H5N1 in Wild Birds) is that all poultry and captive birds have to remain indoors throughout the Zone ie the full 1200 square miles from the Forth to Inverbervie. There is also no movement of captive birds into or out of the Zone...

 

For pigeon fanciers this means no exercise, no training, racing, sales, shows, no bringing new pigeons into the Zone and no pigeons going out of the Zone.

 

'Ban' ends at the end of this month, provided no new AI cases.

 

As I said earlier, this total confusion is what we get if we simply wait and see what we're told to do by the authorities. Think back to the first few days of the 2005 ban on shows and sales when nobody had a real grip on what was happening... we're kinda much in the same position right now. Suggest in future (ie starting right now) that pigeon Unions should push for proper consultation on a stakeholder basis, then we'll know in advance what legislation is proposed and what is likely to be required from fanciers, and get the word out on the ground before the event, rather than after it.

[deeman]

 

Bruno totally agree with you  but when i spoke to vet and read what's in print  there seems to be a conradiction with oneanother.

Have just spoken to the guy i was to get birds from and he tells me that amtrax will not bring them

[THE FIFER]

I AGREE BRUNO THE UNIONS SHOULD BE SENDING OUT WORD AS TO WHAT U CAN OR CANNOT DO THIS HAS NEVER BEEN DONE WITH SHU ANYWAY DO NOT KNOW ABOUT RPRA, WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AS WE AR ON LINE BUT NOT ALL ARE.

[schouwman71]

There was a swan found in germany with the same virus and they usually are in pairs,just a thought but do you think that the swan could have died there and gone adrift ending up at fife already dead spending some time in the water.

[mealybar]

A list of restrictions for fanciers living in the Wild Bird Risk Area (which is the one; Forth Road Bridge to Stonehaven):

http://www.pigeonbasics.com/news/news287.html

[fifestay]

They are here ...total containment

[Guest]

Link to map showing 3km & 5km zones.

 

 

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/972/0025828.pdf

[Guest]

Link to map showing wild bird protection zone

 

 

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/Doc/915/0026441.pdf

[Guest]

Summary of Current Restrictions

 

Following the confirmation that a dead swan found in Fife was infected with HPAI, a 3 km Protection Zone (PZ) surrounded by a 10 km Surveillance Zone (SZ) has been established. The zones are centred around the shore at Cellardyke where the wild bird was found.

 

In addition, a larger area, the Wild Bird Risk Area (WBRA), was designated. It runs east of the M90 from the Forth Road Bridge, south of the A90 from Perth to Dundee and east of the A90 between Dundee and Stonehaven, and covers an area of 2500 square km.

 

Controls in place within the Protection Zone and Surveillance Zone

For the PZ and SZ, there are controls in place on the movement of all captive birds, hatching eggs from captive birds, poultry meat and other poultry products (though table eggs are NOT included in these controls). These restrict movements both within and moving in and out of the PZ and SZ. People within these zones who need to move any of the above should contact the Perth Animal Health Office to enquire about licenses (01738 602211). Shooting or hunting birds is not allowed in the PZ or SZ.

 

There are NO restrictions on the movements of people or vehicles, and NO restrictions on access to outdoor areas.

 

Controls in place within the Wild Bird Risk Area

There is a requirement to house domestic poultry and captive birds, or take other measures to separate domesticated birds from wild birds, within the WBRA. There is also a ban on holding bird gatherings or training racing pigeons.

 

There are NO movement restrictions on birds or poultry products in the WBRA.

 

As in the PZ and SZ, there are NO restrictions on the movements of people or vehicles, and no restrictions on access to outdoor areas.

 

Outwith the PZ, SZ and WBRA

There are no restrictions in the rest of Scotland or GB. There is no specific action that bird keepers should take, however, there is information available on sensible biosecurity precautions than can be taken now, and on housing requirements, for which bird keepers might like to plan ahead. This can be found at:

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/Agriculture/animal-welfare/Diseases/SpecificDisease/AvianInfluenza/BiosecGuidance

 

Helplines

To report the finding of dead wild birds: 08459 335577

General enquiries: 0131 244 0404

 

Animal Health and Welfare Division

Saturday 8th April 2006