*****outragous!!

[Guest]

i recently was reading the latest bhw (british homing world), and i came across a letter in the 'letters to the editor' section.

 

the gentleman in the letter wrote that he had one of his pigeons reported by a non fanicer (which will happen from time to time). and the non-fanciers job seemed to be a pest control service and any pigeon he found that had a ring on he put to one side.

 

he then recieved a letter from the NEHU stating that it was his responsibility to mak sure the bird returned to his lofts (okay fair play), however he also recieved another letter from the non-fanicer which ran a pest control service saying that, he had to pay the £22 carriage fee of amtrak AND HE ALSO HAD TO PAY A £5 CHARGE ON TOP OF THAT FOR THE NON-FANCIER KEEPING THE BIRD WHILE AMTRAK COME TO COLLECT IT!!, TO ADD ON TOP OF THAT RIDUCULOUS COMMENT YOU ALSO HAVE TO PAY £1 PER DAY AFTER 7 DAYS OF AMTRAK NOT COLLECTING IT..

 

the man who wrote this letter  also knows a nice, friendly 80 year old gentleman that had exactly the same letter, and when this fine man phoned the pest-contro,l non-fancier to ask why this charge is necassary, the w***** on the other end starting being verbily abusive. which is out of order to such a fine gentleman.

 

 

i dont know about you but words cannot describe how utterly stupid this seems!!

 

 

 

[slatey]

this happend to me about 3 years ago pest control in birmingham they was catching racing pigeons in the town then reporting them through the reddings then sending these letters saying £5 to send back/ to let go/or to kill they told me they could let it go on a38 at derby 40 mls away do that then i said £5 please so paid that 3 days later said it had gone back phoned them again i asked them to kill it then. £5 pound piease. i called him all the fithing bas***ds under the sun.

Anyway still had to pay to get them to dispose of the pigeon or it was so much per day. give the letters to r p r a i think they got it stopped

tomo

[Blue Chequer]

The NEHU are aware that there is someone at Darlington acting as a pest control officer, they are obliged to send the owner notification of where the bird is but they are NOT advising this "bounty hunter" of the name and address of the owner.  No one will get a suspension for failing to claim a bird reported by this man.  He apparently purports to be employed by Darlington Council.

[Guest]

i know i would tell em were to go if they ask me to pay that!!

[Guest]

anyone got his phone number?

[Guest shadow]

The RPRA will not fine or follow up on any of the reported pigeons if the report comes from stray catchers

[PIGEON_MAN]

YOUR RIGHT SHADOW THE GUY IN BIRMINGHAM AS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW AND THERE IS NOTHING THE R.P.R.A. CAN DO ABOUT IT AS THE GUY IS ALL LEGAL WITH HIS OWN SOLICITOR HE AS EVERYTHING SET UP TO A TEE SO I WOULD ADVISE ANYONE WHO AS A STRAY REPOTED BY HIM TO CLAIM IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND PAY WHAT HE SAYS OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET SUSPENDED.

[Guest]

hey,   i'd rather get suspended. £5 or £50 its not the point. sorry thats just my opinion.

[Guest]

hey,   i'd rather get suspended. £5 or £50 its not the point. sorry thats just my opinion.

 

 

hit the nail on the head there!!, and personally i dont think your the only person on this forum with that opinion gezza23

 

[Guest shadow]

YOUR RIGHT SHADOW THE GUY IN BIRMINGHAM AS BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS NOW AND THERE IS NOTHING THE R.P.R.A. CAN DO ABOUT IT AS THE GUY IS ALL LEGAL WITH HIS OWN SOLICITOR HE AS EVERYTHING SET UP TO A TEE SO I WOULD ADVISE ANYONE WHO AS A STRAY REPOTED BY HIM TO CLAIM IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND PAY WHAT HE SAYS OTHERWISE YOU WILL GET SUSPENDED.

 

The RPRa will not suspend you at all ,through these stray catchers but you are better off claiming it than take him on and have the expence of court actions

[PIGEON_MAN]

THE SAME RULES APPLY FOR CLAIMING A STRAY OFF THESE STRAY CATCHERS AS THEY DO TO HAVING A BIRD REPORTED BY ANYONE ELSE BELIEVE YOU ME I  HAVE HAD PERSONALLY DEALINGS WITH THE ONE IN BIRMINGHAM, HE AS BEEN DOING THIS FOR MANY MANY YEARS.THERE WAS A TIME WHEN EVERY OTHER LETTER IN THE BHW AND RP WAS A COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS GUY BUT AS I SAID BEFORE THE RPRA COULDN,T DO A THING ABOUT HIM.DONT BE MISLED BY ANYTHING YOU MAY HERE ABOUT NOT CLAIMING AND PAYING THROUGH THE NOSE FOR A BIRD HE MIGHT REPORT OF YOURS THIS GUY KNOWS THE LAW INSIDE OUT.

[Guest]

I remember letters in BHW a few years back on the same subject, but the stray facility was said to have been run by a local council.

 

I didn't know that there was someone running a business catching rung pigeons but the £5 charge doesn't appear to me to be unreasonable since I believe it is a courtesy to offer anyone finding a bird, especially a non-fancier, a gift of some sort for the bother they went to, for phone calls and for feeding watering & housing and generally looking after the bird.

 

The word 'pest' in pest control is ominous too. And so is talk of law. Stupid thoughts lead to equally stupid actions: Wonder what the law would make of a stray racing pigeon causing a nuisance should councils decide to press that issue?

[slatey]

so then bruno you think its right anyone doing this £5 to let go less than 40 mls then saying it went back bull sh*t it never went no where then with in 3 days another letter, so it cost me a tenner to get it killed how many more flyers has this happend to.

But you support this you must have more money than sence  

[PIGEON_MAN]

I AGREE SLATEY IT IS NOT RIGHT THAT THIS SHOULD HAPPEN BUT IT DOES AND THERE IS NOTHING THE RPRA CAN DO ABOUT IT.THE GUY IN BRUM WAS EMPLOYED BY THE LOCAL COUNCIL TO CLEAR THE FERAL PIGEONS OFF THE BUILDINGS AS THEY WERE CAUSING SO MUCH TROUBLE,HE USED TO HAVE TRAPS SET UP ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IF A RACING PIGEON WAS CAUGHT IN ONE OF THEM IT WAS UNFORTUNATE FOR THE OWNER.

[AlanWilkins]

you lot are lucky i like right by the bloke n he runs a corn shop some so called fanciers take your birds in when they catch them n get 50p off a bag of corn per bird. his names gollins by the way n we all know him to well around here(should be shut down)

[Guest]

I remember letters in BHW a few years back on the same subject, but the stray facility was said to have been run by a local council.

 

I didn't know that there was someone running a business catching rung pigeons but the £5 charge doesn't appear to me to be unreasonable since I believe it is a courtesy to offer anyone finding a bird, especially a non-fancier, a gift of some sort for the bother they went to, for phone calls and for feeding watering & housing and generally looking after the bird.

 

The word 'pest' in pest control is ominous too. And so is talk of law. Stupid thoughts lead to equally stupid actions: Wonder what the law would make of a stray racing pigeon causing a nuisance should councils decide to press that issue?

 

yes but bruno my guess which is probably true is that these people (pest control im not saying all honest non fanciers will do this) dthey wont even feed the birds further more even if it is ok to give some one £5 for doing this, its still cheeky to ask and they have to report birds anyway.

 

 

[Guest]

and to be rude to a nice, 80 year old gentleman just enquiring about why it is he should pay this riduculous fee, this man is not a genuine man hes just in it for the money and to use extreme verbal abuse to this fine man, must mean he is really stuck for money after all it is only £5. however someone that agrees with this will most probably just say 'exactly its only £5 so why dont you just pay it' but as said above in another members post its not the point.

 

i wish he contacted me with 1 of my birds and ill give him what he give that poor man, but about 10 times worse!!!

 

[Blue Chequer]

If the RPRA are aware that this man is running a business in catching strays they should with-hold the owners name and address, I am sure they could quote freedom of information etc. and simply tell him that the owner has been informed. then leave it to the owner to either try and get it back or just ignore the matter.  At one time the SHU never informed the finder of the name and address of the owner, you just had to wait until you were contacted. (This was quite a few years ago)

[Guest]

Think you've opened a right can of worms here.

 

Lots of allegations:

 

(1) pay up & still no pigeon = FRAUD

 

(2) pigeons being handed over to the guy by fanciers = FRAUD, THEFT, Breaking Organisation Rules on dealing with strays.

 

(3) nasty phone calls = BREACH OF TELECOMMS ACT

 

(4) you also say he is a corn trader : Vote with your feet.

 

 

Worst thing you can do is do nothing.

[slatey]

if i lived in brum i wouldnt go near is corn shop and id make sure my mates didnt either, by buying it in bulk and selling at cost.

[PIGEON_MAN]

NOT SURE IF THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT SOME FANCIERS ON HERE HAVE BECOME AWARE OF THIS PERSON BUT I WOULD SAY HE AS BEEN OPERATING LIKE THIS FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS AND AS I HAVE ALLREADY SAID BEFORE HE IS VERY AWARE OF WHAT IS LAW AND WHAT ISN,T, HAVING SORTED IT ALL OUT YEARS AGO,THERE AS BEEN MANY A FANCIER BEFORE CHALLENGED HIM AND HAD NO JOY,AND EVEN THE RPRA CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT HIM.IF YOU ARE UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE A BIRD REPORTED BY HIM IT IS THE SAME AS HAVING ONE REPORTED BY A NON FANCIER AND IT IS AS EVERYONE KNOWS I,M SURE YOUR DUTY TO CLAIM THE BIRD AS SOON AS YOU CAN,AS FOR HIM MAKING THE DIFFERANT CHARGES THAT HE DOES AS I SAY HE KNOWS THE LAW INSIDE OUT AND I WOULD ADVISE ANYONE TO GET THEIR BIRD BACK FROM HIM AS SOON AS YOU CAN OR TELL HIM TO DISPOSE OF IT,IT COULD SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY.