products

[pault]

With all the complementery products on the market.

what do all the members think is the best and why.

 

 

[jimmy white]

;D if you can get buy one get one free pigeon grub ,,,,,that would be the best

[Beanz]

Well if you bought everything they say does your pigeons good there would not be enough days in the week to give it to the birds and you would have to win the lottery twice over to pay for them, I think its up to the individual to pick out what they want to use if any and then its trial and error, the companys are not selling them for your benefit so dont think they are doing you a favour, they want your cash, there are many fanciers using natural products and winning just as much as those using these products.

[Guest Paulo]

its certianly bewildering for us novices and expensive

[Guest TAMMY_1]

its certianly bewildering for us novices and expensive

 

THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I POSTED THAT THREAD ABOUT CHEAP REMEDIES HOPING TO GET SOME CHEAPER NATURAL REMEDIES AND THERE WAS SOME GOOD REPLIES

[Mike Lycett]

Some will say you don't need products...   But does Paula Radcliffe perform on just tap water?   Me thinketh NOT.

[Guest Paulo]

Yeah supplements are important but do you think you can go overboard with it Mike?

 

As an athete myself (well in the past salad dodger now) I have taken creatine etc and all sorts and it does help but water is the most important thing of all if you are well dyhydrated you feel like you can take over the world.

 

Giving a pigeons well known dislike for anything but plain water how do you supplement. Do you do it via the corn?

 

I'm going to try and get it simple next year but these supplements will be getting used.

 

Gemthapax - too many top people recommend it not to use it.

 

Garlic

 

Cider Vinigar

 

Multivits

 

Vit B12

 

Hormoform - expensive but every young bird bred on it looks the part

[Guest Paulo]

if you give something like homoform does that mean you don't have to give them vits in the water I want to try and have as many days of plain water as possible

[Mike Lycett]

Of course you can go overboard-  and listen to this - the MAJORITY of what is on the market is unlicensed CRAP.

 

Observe your birds drinking. I do ours. They drink Strike & Gemthepax like normal water.  

 

But Yes - a lot of our stuff goes on the corn & clear water in the drinkers.   Take "Strike" - its never advertised on the tub as going on the corn  - only on the drinker. But since I started writing about it on the corn I know sh!t loads of blokes have phoned Gem up and asked if its ok to do so.  Of course it is, because its 100% natural goodness. It is physically IMPOSSIBLE to overdose on that or Gemthepax

[Guest Paulo]

Thanks Mike useful advice. I take it strike is a product you would recommend as well.

[Guest Paulo]

Anybody tried golden boost? John Halstead recommends it in his dvd I have just bought.

[Wiley]

anyone tried creatine based products ive heard alot of hype about it iamongst pigeon men latly aswell as people at my boxing club

[Guest Paulo]

Used it for muay thai and boxing wiley does give you a slight increase in recovery time but I find it makes me retain water which is no good when you have to make the weight. I wouldn't recommend it for pigeons like.

[PIGEON_MAN]

NOT TO SURE WEATHER THERE ANY BETTER BUT THIS YEAR I USED THE GEM PELLETS INSTEAD OF THE GEMTHEPAX.

[Wiley]

Paulo does it also make your work rate harder ive hearder and produce more energy for your muscles,im just interested in the products cos theres a fair few products containing creatine in the boddy and ridewood catalougue

[Guest Paulo]

made me more aggressive and increased my staminea for eaxmple you can whack out more pressups before you fail. Same with combos on the pads

[Mike Lycett]

If I had to use one product and one product only then it would be STRIKE.

 

As for Creatine based products - nah - unnecessary

[Mike Lycett]

If I had to use one product and one product only then it would be STRIKE.

 

As for Creatine based products - nah - unnecessary

[Guest]

I THINK IF U KEEP IT AS SIMPLE AS POSSABLE AND NOT OVER DO ANTIBIOTICS KEEP TO NATURAL PRODUCTS AND CONSULT AN VET THATS THE WAY WE WILL BE GOING IF MY DAD GETS BETTER I HOPE COMPO

[Guest Paulo]

made me more aggressive and increased my staminea for eaxmple you can whack out more pressups before you fail. Same with combos on the pads

 

so yeah you can say it ups your workrate mate only thing is I found I was weeing like a race horse. If you use it for boxing don't bother with the loading phase as we don't need as much as weight lifters and try the tablets the power is minging if you must hav epowder go for the maximuscle stuff.

 

Personally I wouldn't bother with it.

 

http://message.axkickboxing.com/?topicgroup=axsportscience

 

The aboves got quite some good stuff on about all aspects of sports science and the other forums are pretty good. Check it out I'm called Baz Faulty on there. Mainly thaiboxers, mma people who use it. A lot of the thai boxers have boxing backgrounds and have boxed pro or am or have been aba coaches etc.

 

 

[Guest]

I THINK KEEPING IT NATURAL BASED PRODUCTS I LIKE CIDAR VINAGER GARLIC GEMTHPAX CRANBERRYS  HELP AGAINST ECOIL WATCH THE DOWN DROP AM GOING TO USE AN AMINO ACID EARLY DOORS FROM TWIN LABS FOR HUMAN BUT AN MESSAGE THAT CHRIS BLASDON TOLD ME AND MANY OTHERS KEEP IT SIMPLE OR USE TWO MANY PRODUCTS WILL DO MORE HARM THAN GOOD REMEMBER THE CRAP U USE IF U DID IT EMAGIN THE BUILD UP OF LATIC ACID ECT IN YOUR BODY WOULD CAUSE U FATIGE SO U WILL NOT GIVE YOUR ALL

[Guest Paulo]

cider vin  and garlic are great