liverpool_boy Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 my club members hav folded the club 2 join a nuther club leaving 4 lofts out of 14 lofts one of the lofts has flu pidgons for nearly 64 year and haz 2 quit the sport he loves becoz thares not enuff members 2 keep it going oor hands are tied in the club @the momant becoz of the premasees that other members were key holders so the club has 2 sell off..computer equiptment but iz int it funny some of the members hoo has left want 2 by this sftuff lol ;D ;D are thare not sumthing funny about that wen the club thave joined fly E.T.S :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ ;D ;D ;D ;Dlollolol
Guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Do you mean they left to join a ets club
frank-123 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 the club broke up last year liverpool boy and wings are outside the boundries of some nearby clubs who will not open up to let them join as there are top flyers so will have no club this season and will have to basket there birds at a club 8 miles away but will be unable to race apart from the lanarkshie social circle but iam sure the boys will be winners in the snfc as thats what there are going for now all the best lads
Guest jason Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 too much negativety in the world, think positive and the 4 lofts could have their own club, make it a ggod one and it'll attract more members (maybe take members of the other club?) (sorry but I've just had a 3 day course on business management and they teach you to be positive all the time.) ;D ;D ;D jason
Guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 Good points made u only need 4 to make a club so do it find someones garage and the four of yous are entilitled to you share of the proceeds of the club try and buy back as much as possible GO FOR IT
Guest WINGS 04 Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 NOT IN LANARKSHIRE 5 MEMBERS TO HAVE A CLUB
THE FIFER Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 SHU rule takes 5 members to have a club.
pigeonscout Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 19 members to form a club and min of 5 to race for other than club results
Guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 RPRA 4 MEMBERS but remember some of the members of that club might not want to be members there now they will come to you it will all sort its self out in the end heard that some of the almond vally/dunbarton clubs had less than 5 members Wings i thaught the SHU had changed its rule
pigeonscout Posted January 31, 2007 Report Posted January 31, 2007 No club should have the right to close its doors on a flyer that has not broke any rules. I seen this lots of times where the top flyers are left out in the cold. Club boundaries should be made that they meet each other that way everyone will be within a clubs boundaries. If a person breaks the rules then he is out. He should not be forced to leave the sport because he wins. What sort of a person tries to put the top flyer out of the sport so he can then get on the result sheet? I will tell you a very sad one.
GREENGRASS Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Hope you get something sorted out Rab and Danny as i know you are always the first to help out with youngsters for new starts and charity birds. Must be some sort of disease in our sport where fanciers who put the effort and hours into their birds and who become successful and competitive are then treated so badly. How hollow a victory when you have to remove the top fanciers to gain it, far more satisfactory to know your birds have beaten the best in your club/section/fed, fair and square, shame on your clubmates.
gangster Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 WHAT A BUNCH OF SMACKED ARSES. IF YOU CANT BEAT EM FORM A NEW CLUB N LEAVE GOOD FLYERS OUT..............DONT SELL THE CLUB ASSETS TO THEM ID LIKE TO BE MORE ANIMATED BUT I WONT WE HAD THIS YEARS AGO COZ 1 AREA IN OUR CLUB COULD NOT BEAT MY MATE THEY HAD SECRET MEETINGS AND FORMED A NEW CLUB THIS SORT OF BEHAVIOUR SHOULD BE BANNED BY THE SHU/RPRA/WHU/IHU..........WE NEED TO CLOSE UP ALL LOOP HOLES TO DISCOURAGE THIS SORT OF STUFF HAPPENING.................................
gangster Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 THIS IS A MESSAGE TO ALL YOU MEMBERS WHO FORMED THIS NEW CLUB.........REMEMBER EVERY CARD YOU WIN IS ONLY COZ YOU WERE TOO SOFT TO TEST YOUR BIRDS AGAINST THESE BOYS SO YOUR PERFORMANCES ARNT WORTH A S**** SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS YOU ARE................RAB/DANNY...TIOCFAIDH AR LA.....YOUR DAY WILL COME TOO........MICK
Guest TAMMY_1 Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 I TOLD YOU BEFORE RAB THAT WHEN YOU KEPT SENDING ME YOUR CLUB RESULTS AND YOU WERE TAKING THE FIRST TWO OR THREE THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO GIVE SOMEBODY ELSE A CHANCE, YOU WOULDNAE LISTEN YOU KEPT ON WINNING, AND THEN TO MAKE IT WORSE YOU WENT ON TO DO WELL IN THE NATIONALS, HOW DARE YOU ;D ;D ;D SORRY ABOUT THE CLUB RAB AS YOU WERE THE ONLY ONE LAST YEAR THAT NEVER FAILED TO SEND ME A RESULT EVERY WEEK , ARE YOU GOING TO THE SHU TO SEE IF THEY CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT WITH LOCAL CLUBS REFUSING YOU ENTRY ?
Guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 ;D Rab , stay posotive , dont sell youre club assetts , are any of the 4 remaining partners ? if so could they fly as individuals to same loft ? father & son or mr + mrs ? you also some time till racing starts any freinds u know outside present club boundary who would join if so extend to accomodate them ? hope this helps , best of luck for the future , keep your chin up pal ........................... andy 8)
Guest anthony Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 I believe that real competition makes real WINNERS,chossen competition makes easy winners
Guest slugmonkey Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 we have been having the same problem here a guy in our club has been trying to start a new club because he claims that its not fair the way its done with our flyers as spread out like they are well enough is enough we finally got him suspended for 2 years he has formed his own club consisting of 11 members, his wife is 1 his son is 2 he is 3, 3 of the others have been kicked out of our club for cheating or bad sportsmanship ect 3 other ship less than 10 birds per year so they arent really helping 1 of the others is still going to fly with us because they only have a 6 race schedule and he wants to fly more of the 2 left one of them is competitive and a stand up guy so I can't imagine that he would be there long having got the news of this guy being suspended we picked up 5 new members I dont really wish these guys bad luck I just wish them NO luck our club has demonstrated that we like competition we start sections and district members so they can compete at same distance and conditions then we compete sections against sections the sad fact is at that level the wind will sometimes affect the results and a certain section will dominate what I can't understand is why these guys don't want to compete against more birdage, having sections ( still eligible for diplomas ) is in effect having a club like these guys have formed so I dont see their reasoning oh well when these guys come crawling back ( and they will ) we will have things SO diffrent they will be unable to cause the problems that have in the past
Guest slugmonkey Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 P.S. Tammy I know that when I fly I dont want to win or get diplomas or position because someone GAVE it to me it is an insult to me and my birds I have achived top performances in MANY activities from pool to speedskating ( both at a national level ) and have learned one universal truth - if you aren't getting beat occasionally you aren't improving your game! this holds true for anything you do I agree that some will complain about getting beat we call these folks LOSERS when I get beat I figure out why and try not to make the same mistake and practice avoiding it again if you EVER wanted to be the best at something here is a surefire way to achive it go find the best person at this activity you can and let them beat you until they cant anymore then guess what they arent the best anymore pretty simple huh
Guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 Agree with others ... this type of behaviour needs to be stopped. Posted before and I think it is still valid: if a club by taking existing members away from another club contributes to that club folding thro the insufficient members ruling, then it is morally bound to accept the residual 4 members too, irrespective of 'existing' boundaries. Also think the 4 members should put in a joint letter to that affect to the 'poaching' club, explain their current position: request entry on a 'one-off' basis given that this club were a major contributer to these fliers dilemna - stopped racing doos weekly thro no fault of their own. And I think the SHU should be contacted, if only for 'legal' opinion.
Guest slugmonkey Posted February 1, 2007 Report Posted February 1, 2007 I agree we used this rule ( we have a similiar one here ) to suspend this guy
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