friendsloft Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 on the news today, the man has a common cold or man flu, as the wife puts it Friendsloft
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 on the news today, the man has a common cold or man flu, as the wife puts it Friendsloft This is how these stories tend to take legs. I assume you speak of the vet. Because the second worker is still undergoing tests, results will be made known tomorrow. And he's Portuguese, don't know what 'flu' is in that language.
friendsloft Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Yes bruno I am talking about the vet Friendloft
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Come on brono i can name 6 people that came back from Blackpool loaded with the flu myself included its that time of year thease guys are no different to us they get winter flu as well let the sh-- stirrers in the news/papers do what the are good at but we dont need to help them No need for apology Frank. Simply following up on the information on the vet that I'd posted before. When I posted the original, media interest had appeared to dropping away, then back it comes with yet another twist .. this story just doesn't seem to be going away, and with absolutely no help from me I might add.
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Yes bruno I am talking about the vet Friendloft Yes, thought you may have been. He's out of hospital today (thankfully) , but another, a poultry worker involved in the same outbreak, has been admitted (unfortunately).
friendsloft Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 bruno that i didnt know, hopefully he to will be negative Friendsloft
johno Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 pigeon issues in the face of potential catastrophe may not be a prochial issue to you bruno but I will choose to await the findings of the present legislative investigative bodies. Acceptimng reality as soon as is possible tends to help most situations. The pigeon fancy is irrelevant in this debate both at a regional and national level among the legislative organs. It may well be better to keep our heads down and wait and see. No need to cause a stir where there is not one.
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Johno, I echo what you say...........that's what I was trying to say but perhaps not as eloquantly as you!!
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Bruno the apology was for spelling your name wrong i still think you are fireing up the flu situation with the vet
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 pigeon issues in the face of potential catastrophe may not be a prochial issue to you bruno but I will choose to await the findings of the present legislative investigative bodies. Acceptimng reality as soon as is possible tends to help most situations. The pigeon fancy is irrelevant in this debate both at a regional and national level among the legislative organs. It may well be better to keep our heads down and wait and see. No need to cause a stir where there is not one. You appear not to know that we are living in a blame culture, where someone is always to blame, hiding something, every incident is followed by a Media witch-hunt, usually finding a 'safe' scapegoat to pin it all on. I think it will be helpful if I expand upon blame culture in the context of the last paragraph of my reply, copied below:- But in both a Human Health and a Public Order context, it remains important for pigeon fanciers that they and their birds are not seen ‘in any way’ to be involved in the spread of bird flu. ‘In any way’ includes the constant ‘AI-link’ with pigeons made by the media, and the ‘AI-link’ with pigeon racing made by DEFRA placing restrictions on pigeon racing. That is far from a parochial issue in my opinion, it’s the single biggest ‘pigeon issue’ and other ‘pigeon issues’ such as racing the channel, sales & shows are ‘speck of dust’ beside it. DEFRA, and the Media have both linked pigeons with the spread of bird flu. We know we have had no role to play in the active spread of bird flu, and now with tighter biosecurity, we know we will never have any role to play in the active spread of bird flu. But no-one is making those points for us where it now matters most ... the Media. Why Media? Because Government ministers are on record during the Suffolk outbreak as saying everyone - poultry farms in area, general public - is to take their information from the TV. This followed complaints from the local farms and local community that they were receiving nothing in the way of advice or information from official sources. "You are getting it here on TV, it is the quickest way to get it out" (John Gummer MP). The moment the outbreak was confirmed as H5N1 the BBC News 24 reporter on site remarked that 'people here are saying a pigeon with something on its feet may have got into the shed thro a hole in the roof and spread the disease' . Who were the people on the infected farm who said that? Why was it never refuted by Official sources. The Public listen to the News and are told to believe everything they hear, it's coming from Official sources. The first thing the Public hear after H5N1 is confirmed, is a stupid off-the-cuff remark about a pigeon, which was never refuted by Official sources. Then the Public hear pigeon racing has been cancelled by the Government and what do they think? Well they'd cancel that to stop pigeons spreading bird flu, wouldn't they, otherwise, what's the point of cancelling it? We are being roped in as scapegoats. The Human Health and Public Order contexts are that the next logical step is for someone who has someone keeping pigeons somewhere 'close by' not necessarily a next door neighbour, asking a Human Health Authority if they are at risk from both these pigeons AND the person keeping them. We could get caught up in Public Order issues. In a blame culture, there is no such thing as an innocent party. If it will maintain Public Order, the pigeons go.
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 Bruno the apology was for spelling your name wrong i still think you are fireing up the flu situation with the vet OK. My post was a follow-up post about the vet being OK, and the media H5N1 story continuing to run after they appeared to drop it. I note there had been no similar comments about the original post.
Guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Posted February 7, 2007 it was the origonal post i was talking about their are plenty of so called experts out there who want to have a pop at pigeon fanciers without us starting roumers but i do agree that they would love to make us the scapegoat and if it doesent pan out the way they want we wont get any retraction they will just move on to someone else thats news papers /television anything that makes a story doesnt mater who suffers
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