thirsty returning birds

[xtccock]

hi folks  i strongly beleive that my birds as well as others are not getting at water

on race days several reasons ,

what i want to know is about pumping them with water on a friday b4 they go can this be done and how help appreciated,

[Back garden fancier]

Teach your birds to drink in the basket. People say "mine are basket trained", but have they spent several days in the basket feeding and drinking? No. Well they're NOT basket trained then. If you train them, you don't need to pump water into them. As well as basket training, I have my loft doors made up with wicker and hang drinkers on the outside just like the fed baskets. The birds don't like sticking their heads out between the bars, but this way they get used to it in the loft.

[mickf]

best to use rehydration,put 20ml down there throats on a friday night,use a 20ml shringe with a plastic pipe attached

[Wiley]

just remove your drinker for a while, then about hour before basketing put drinker back in, you'll notice on basketing they have taken a gd drink

[little sam]

DO WHAT WILEY SAYS THEY ARE ALL JUMPING FOR THE WATER THEN  

[chichichi]

take drinker out at 12noon and give some hemp and rape seed 1 hour before basketing...put the drinker back in and they will drink well before going to the race....hope this helps.......my bed time now,,night all

[THE FIFER]

if birds are getting an early lib, even although water is in front of them, birds dont drink early morning, unless after a feed, also we dont feed beans much now and beans are full of water,

[xtccock]

well folks i leave for work at 7am and give them a feed nothing more till return from race i get home on fridays at 3.30pm  on the last 8 races birds have been gagging for a drink on return and not trapping at all even to the point of wandering round the garden sucking grass

[Wiley]

take the drinker out at 3.30 on the friday, then put drinker back in at 45 mins before basketing then. To me if it sounds like birds wont trap sounds like over feeding on the friday. This week will be worse aswell if birds get up as there will be plenty of water in ur guttering, and could mean valuable wasted seconds or even minutes

[jimmy white]

hi folks  i strongly beleive that my birds as well as others are not getting at water

on race days several reasons ,

what i want to know is about pumping them with water on a friday b4 they go can this be done and how help appreciated,

 

i think feeding yb in a dowelled feeder with a lid on top , then after feeding put galley pots of water in the feeder , this does train them to poke their heads through the dowels [same as baskets] for a drink  ,,,but taking the drinkers away i wouldnt advise as they would retain their food in their crop till they had a drink ,,,if this was too  close to basketing ,they would most probably bring it up and be worse off

[Guest TAMMY_1]

best to use rehydration,put 20ml down there throats on a friday night,use a 20ml shringe with a plastic pipe attached

 

and how far down their throat would u push the pipe ?

[tammy11]

Aye but done waste ne beer lad

[swilcox]

I have treid forcing water on a friday but it upset them a little!

[jakjak]

I like to see my pigeons take a drink when they return, it means they have put in the effort!!

Even if they drink in the basket, they will want a drink when they return!!

if they dont drink on return the bird aint made an effort!

think about it, if you run for 30 minutes, the first thing you want is a drink,

just my thoughts

[swilcox]

I used to have a partner who would make pigeons wait 30 minutes before they could have a drink, it used to drive me wild.

[Guest paulrstokes]

Handfull of redband and rice 45 mins befoire basketing, when they have ate that they go and drink.

[mickf]

put the pipe down there throat till you reach the crop area.

[Guest]

Seems to be a judgement call: drink when they eat, so if you don't feed them before they go, they won't drink. Forcing them to drink isn't best preparation for a race, doing what's suggested runs risk of injury, at best. If they don't drink when they come home from the race, then probably they've been down for a drink, and if they are as bad as described [delirious] then there is something more than not drinking wrong with them.

 

[jimmy white]

;D this may sound ridiculous  ;D and probably is ;D, but i believe a lot of ybs dont take a drink in the transporter for one reason or another,especialy with holdovers etc and in the first few races , now i have to take a fair bit of medication [which is obvious by my posts ;D ;D ;D one of the medications i take, is a slow release capsule ,which ,instead of taking this medication in tablet form 4 times per day, i now can take one slow release capsule once a day [this is a capsule which releases my medication,inside my stomach  ,at the right dose over a 24 hour period  ,,now if this is possible in humans ,, i just wondered if the scientist, vets etc . could produce a capsules , that contained , just plain water that could be popped down the birds throat , so that once in the crop ,would release plain water in a slow release form ,in the birds crop over a 24 hr priod, ensuring the pigeon wouldnt deheydrate any, b4 lib ,,,,if they can do this in humans ,why not animals ??or birds ??  ok a bit mad ; :-/D but on the other hand,who knows  ,,,docter j white, m.a.d ;D

[Pego]

;D this may sound ridiculous  ;D and probably is ;D, but i believe a lot of ybs dont take a drink in the transporter for one reason or another,especialy with holdovers etc and in the first few races , now i have to take a fair bit of medication [which is obvious by my posts ;D ;D ;D one of the medications i take, is a slow release capsule ,which ,instead of taking this medication in tablet form 4 times per day, i now can take one slow release capsule once a day [this is a capsule which releases my medication,inside my stomach  ,at the right dose over a 24 hour period  ,,now if this is possible in humans ,, i just wondered if the scientist, vets etc . could produce a capsules , that contained , just plain water that could be popped down the birds throat , so that once in the crop ,would release plain water in a slow release form ,in the birds crop over a 24 hr priod, ensuring the pigeon wouldnt deheydrate any, b4 lib ,,,,if they can do this in humans ,why not animals ??or birds ??  ok a bit mad ; :-/D but on the other hand,who knows  ,,,docter j white, m.a.d ;D

Very good idea, as always just common sense.

 

[Guest stevie-b]

use belgasol in the water on day of basketing and on race day your pigeons wont be dehydrated

[jimmy white]

am i right in saying this is an electrolyte or reheydration salt ,minerals   :)

maybe would help , but remember we had a debate on electrlytes on the forum , some for, and some against ,,,,think i was a" for",,,after the race

[Guest TAMMY_1]

use belgasol in the water on day of basketing and on race day your pigeons wont be dehydrated

 

 

 

Belgasol

An unique combination of electrolytes,vitamins,trace elements and amino acids on an energy carrying base,developed for fast hydration to improve condition.

 

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[Guest]

Well, on YBs not drinking in the basket: 7 late breds on their 3rd overnight stint in basket in the loft last night, food then water, didn't see one take water. Much the same experience with my other YB team, just can't get them to drink.

[jimmy white]

if theve eaten in the basket ,bruno, and havent drunk for three days ,,try and handle each yb INSIDE the basket ,poking their heads through the basket ,they should drink then   [if not, theve had a drink without you noticing it ]  best of luck