deep litter

[Guest]

 

i have also not heard of 'deep litter ' that is changed once a week ??

 

 

 

 

 

Not sure what you mean. Might be a popular misconception that deep litter doesn't need regular attention. It does. It requires to be raked over and if you don't rake & riddle & bin the big stuff then its going to get pretty deep. At the mo mine is just a couple of inches deep and that's enough for me. Like I said mine is a dry reddish-brown fine ash and there is no smell off it, and its been there 6 years now. The only thing that is changed every week is the dry disinifectant dressing sprinked over the top: this weekend it was stalosan, next weekend it'll be loft treatment. So its a mixture of different things, built-up over the years.

[Guest]

 

 

i havnt mentioned the word   "WET"   in any of my posts ?

 

 

but any way, u like deep litter and i dont !    thats ok with me .

 

each to there own .

didnt mean to insinuate  u were lazy.

 

 

ok homer no probs,

 

[EAGLEOWL]

 

 

Not sure what you mean. Might be a popular misconception that deep litter doesn't need regular attention. It does. It requires to be raked over and if you don't rake & riddle & bin the big stuff then its going to get pretty deep. At the mo mine is just a couple of inches deep and that's enough for me. Like I said mine is a dry reddish-brown fine ash and there is no smell off it, and its been there 6 years now. The only thing that is changed every week is the dry disinifectant dressing sprinked over the top: this weekend it was stalosan, next weekend it'll be loft treatment. So its a mixture of different things, built-up over the years.

 

do you get problems with flys and what about attracting vermin to your lofts :-/

 

 

[Guest]

 

do you get problems with flys and what about attracting vermin to your lofts :-/

 

 

Stalosan kills flies, eggs and larvae by sticking to them and bursting their outer protective coats, draining them dry. Loft Treatment contains eucalyptus which is an insect repellant. I've found fossilised millipedes in the litter now and again - must have wandered in from the garden - totally drained of moisture and turned to stone.

 

Last year I had a visit from 1 mouse, it was after the food that I was leaving overnight in the feeder and making a stash of maize under the drinker stand. I bagged it with a poison bait trap, went round the place sealed up all possible entrances, started lifting the feeders at night, and installed 2 electronic vermin chasers, which also do a number on insects, and ionise the loft, keeping the air dust-free..

 

 

[homer]

I don't think deep litter is a short-term thing as it takes about 6 months to get it going in the first place.

 

I also don't think it is anything to do with being lazy, it's certainly a choice thing with me anyway.

 

And as to standing in 6" of sh** that is sticking to your feet - well doesn't sound too much like a deep litter system to me either, more like a deep sh** system as in 'you will be in deep sh**' if its not dry. Nobody walks on my deep litter bar me, and I 've a pair of sandals kept in the loft for that purpose and I certainly don't walk anything back into my home..

 

Deep litter is also there for the express purpose of making sure everything that comes out of the bird isn't infective if it ever finds its way back in. Scrape all you like, its not clean - far from it - and its also far from hygienic,

 

 

hey bruno this is quite a bold statement  

 

 

"Scrape all you like, its not clean - far from it - and its also far from hygienic, "

 

 

my dad and i have been "scraping" 4 the last 50 years and its very  Hygienic !

 

[Guest]

 

do you get problems with flys and what about attracting vermin to your lofts :-/

 

 

vermin(rats ) will enter ur cot to kill ur birds,i have had this a few years back.

ripping out their throats for corn...soon cured that!

but i dont see why vermin would enter ur loft if u had sh!t on the floor?

vermin will enter ur lofts wether its cleaned daily or not.

i do belive that its been noted by researchers that because of the vermin population we are no more then 9 ft away from rats ,mind u i dont see how they can measure this lol.,...maybe its a ratometer lol

 

 

[Guest]

 

hey bruno this is quite a bold statement  

 

 

"Scrape all you like, its not clean - far from it - and its also far from hygienic, "

 

 

my dad and i have been "scraping" 4 the last 50 years and its very  Hygienic !

 

 

There is evidence that what you might think is a clean & hygienic practice has actually the opposite effect of what you intended.

 

Don't have a referenced work [not one that I can recall anyhow]. This link is all about humans, except for the last bit about flies biting mice, but it is the same general principle and should set you thinking .....  

 

http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/sn_arc99/8_14_99/bob2.htm

[Guest]

 

 

 

I AGREE !

ive said on another thread that deep litter is for turkey and chicken farmers that keep hundreds of birds, not your average guy with sheds /lofts in the garden ?

if you havnt got time to scrape out something is wrong !

      iv been in fanciers sheds where the pigeons are standing in 6 inches of sh*t and im being told its the "deep litter system"  ???????

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agree totally,everyone has 15 minutes spare a day to clean out,don't care what hours they work,no excuses.

Having birds standing in poo dry or not is not healthy,how can it be when you see they spend all day pecking about on the floor?,you need to keep the floor as clean as possible.

What is the point in worming or treating for anything if the birds are allowed to re ingest what they have just been treated for?

[jimmy white]

 

Agree totally,everyone has 15 minutes spare a day to clean out,don't care what hours they work,no excuses.

Having birds standing in poo dry or not is not healthy,how can it be when you see they spend all day pecking about on the floor?,you need to keep the floor as clean as possible.

What is the point in worming or treating for anything if the birds are allowed to re ingest what they have just been treated for?

 

YES I AGREE WITH THIS,, IF THE LOFT HOUSES ONLY ENOUGH BIRDS AS FITS PROPERLY,, TAKES NO TIME AT ALL TO CLEAN THE LOFT AND GIVE IT A LITTLE SPRAY ON A DRY DAY ,, BUT THERE ARE FANCIERS NOT ABLE TO DO THIS IN THE WINTER , SO  WHATEVER DEEP LITTER YOU USE IF ITS KEPT BONE DRY , NO OOCYSTS WILL SURVIVE   [NO LOFT IS CLINICAL CLEAN , NO MATTER WHAT,]

[jimmy white]

AND AS FAR AS VERMIN IS CONCERNED ,, ITS THE FEEDING THAT ATTRACTS[NOT THE PIGEONS] THEM, SO NO FEEDING LYING ABOUT  

[jimmy white]

OOPS, capitals ;D ;D ;D im not shouting ,,mistake ;D ;D ;D [whisper ;D ;D ;D]

[homer]

deep litter is for turkeys !!

 

 

 

haha.

 

merry xmas !

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

 

YES I AGREE WITH THIS,, IF THE LOFT HOUSES ONLY ENOUGH BIRDS AS FITS PROPERLY,, TAKES NO TIME AT ALL TO CLEAN THE LOFT AND GIVE IT A LITTLE SPRAY ON A DRY DAY ,, BUT THERE ARE FANCIERS NOT ABLE TO DO THIS IN THE WINTER , SO  WHATEVER DEEP LITTER YOU USE IF ITS KEPT BONE DRY , NO OOCYSTS WILL SURVIVE   [NO LOFT IS CLINICAL CLEAN , NO MATTER WHAT,]

 

Why can't they clean out in winter?

[homer]

 

Why can't they clean out in winter?

 

yeh ???

 

 

[Guest]

 

yeh ???

 

 

Just realised why.it's cos it could take quite a few of them to change a light bulb ;D ;D ;D

 

[jimmy white]

 

Why can't they clean out in winter?

 

work commitments etc ,, and some think that lights can effect the moult chrissy ;D

   [im only 21 ;D ;D ;D,,,,,,,,,,,next birthday ;D ;D ;D][and tell fibs ;D]

[Guest]

Hygeine - this is a much shorter and more up-to-date piece. IgG is immunoglobulin G which is part of the mammalian immune system. IgA is the avian version, found in birds saliva, tears covering the eyeballs and the preen gland.  

 

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn9357

[Guest TAMMY_1]

 

Just realised why.it's cos it could take quite a few of them to change a light bulb ;D ;D ;D

 

AND WHEN DID YOU BECOME A GENIUS AT ANYTHING ? ;D ;D ;D

[homer]

clean the birds out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest TAMMY_1]

clean the birds out !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

SCRAPE MINE OUT EVERY DAY

[chickadee]

We don't have any light bulbs in our lofts but we do have a strip light torch for when we need to do anything in the dark, which we hang on a hook in the loft roof and it is quite effective.

[Guest]

 

work commitments etc ,, and some think that lights can effect the moult chrissy ;D

   [im only 21 ;D ;D ;D,,,,,,,,,,,next birthday ;D ;D ;D][and tell fibs ;D]

 

Well most of us work and most of the birds are through the moult now,any more excuses? ;D ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

 

Just realised why.it's cos it could take quite a few of them to change a light bulb ;D ;D ;D

 

leave her,,,,shes in her element ;D ;D ;D  [couldnt resist that chrissy ;D ;D]

[homer]

 

SCRAPE MINE OUT EVERY DAY

 

nice 1

 

 

 

u r 1 of us !!!!!!!!!!

[Guest]

 

leave her,,,,shes in her element ;D ;D ;D  [couldnt resist that chrissy ;D ;D]

 

That's fine Jimmy,bet you could almost change a light bulb on your own too ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D