h521

p charlton · February 29, 2008

a goose as been found with H521 5 miles from were the last ones were found just seen it on the bbc news

Castleview · February 29, 2008

It's on the DEFRA Site. They said it's a Canadian Goose. I do hope they don't return to Canada, it could put a stint on them too.

March 1, 2008

No offence, but in posting information like this, in my opinion it is very important that it is both factual and correct;

(1) It is H5N1

(2) This is a Canada Goose, the others were swans

(3) It is 1 kilometre from the 'others' well within the former 3km and 10km zones;

(4) Canada Geese don't necessarily come from Canada, just the same as a Bombay Duck isn't necessarily from Bombay, nor is it a duck. UK has had its own population of Canada Geese since 1950's.

(5) The former Zones have been re-instated from today, and barring further finds, will remain in force as before, for 21 and 30 days respectively.

Its not exactly the end of the world.

March 1, 2008

bombay ducks fish ???????????

p charlton · March 1, 2008

Its not exactly the end of the world.

bet you dont live near the site its not good for them that do. and if it keeps happening may effect racing over the water ay not be the end of the world but not good

DOVEScot · March 1, 2008

No offence, but in posting information like this, in my opinion it is very important that it is both factual and correct;

(1) It is H5N1

(2) This is a Canada Goose, the others were swans

(3) It is 1 kilometre from the 'others' well within the former 3km and 10km zones;

(4) Canada Geese don't necessarily come from Canada, just the same as a Bombay Duck isn't necessarily from Bombay, nor is it a duck. UK has had its own population of Canada Geese since 1950's.

(5) The former Zones have been re-instated from today, and barring further finds, will remain in force as before, for 21 and 30 days respectively.

Its not exactly the end of the world.

No offence, but in posting information like this, in my opinion it is very important that it is both factual and correct;

(1) It is H5N1

The poster said it was h521

No offence, but in posting information like this, in my opinion it is very important that it is both factual and correct;

(2) This is a Canada Goose, the others were swans

Correct it is a goose

very important that it is both factual and correct;

(4) Canada Geese don't necessarily come from Canada, just the same as a Bombay Duck isn't necessarily from Bombay, nor is it a duck. UK has had its own population of Canada Geese since 1950's.

Did you copy this from the internet or a sheet you found in the library, to think some people missed you posting

No offence, but in posting information like this, in my opinion it is very important that it is both factual and correct;

(5) The former Zones have been re-instated from today, and barring further finds, will remain in force as before, for 21 and 30 days respectively.

Its not exactly the end of the world.

It may be the end of the world as people know it in this part of the world.

blackjack · March 1, 2008

Correct Rose the Canada goose is now endemic in the UK 3 subspecies in all the dead bird was found at the same swannery where the last outbreak occured.It is odd that no cull has taken place but can you imagine public reaction geese and poultry or pigeons not a 2nd look but swans !. This could be bad news for the likes of myself where 500/700mls is are only interest you can keep sprinting its too boring .I musy also say the Canada geese in this country do need culling they are displacing the native greylag and pink footed geese.

March 1, 2008

Rose, that was my very point - a post here has an inferred link with a possible spread of the disease from SW England to Canada - just because its a Canada Goose - which as I have already pointed out, have been UK Residents for 50 years, People adding 2 + 2 to = 5 in much the same way that a 'Bombay Duck' isn't a duck, and it isn’t from Bombay - its something completely different - a fish.

It is a bit premature to infer an effect on racing. It’s not even the racing season. The Zone ends on Sunday 30th March., racing starts after that – or it should do, if race program planners have factored in the AI ‘Season’ ends in April.

P Charlton, this is us going into our 3rd year of AI restrictions. What you seem to miss is that up to now very few people live in or near an AI Zone, because 10km is quite a small area. So except for one notable exception, very few pigeon fanciers have been affected by a zone implemented outside the racing season. For the record, I live very close to that one notable exception, the biggest AI zone ever implemented in the UK which locked down 1000 square miles of Scotland from North of the River Forth all the way to Montrose. It was the first time H5N1 hit the UK and with respect, nobody down there was too bothered by it, including Peter Bryant, whose VFTR said ‘it shouldn’t affect us’. If ‘us’ meant RPRA members then he overlooked his members in Fife who along with others had a later start to their racing season that year - while the rest of the UK Fancy raced on regardless.

You are right I’m not bothered. But not for the reason you inferred - we’ve been through this the past couple of years. See this incident for what it is in the wide scheme of things. It is one wild bird, nothing more than a small bush fire, and hope the virus burns itself out completely this time. Warmer weather should help that happen.

March 1, 2008

For the record, wild bird culls have been ruled out in all AI Contingency plans. It was a policy implemented by the EU in November 2006. It isn't an option.

DOVEScot · March 1, 2008

a goose as been found with H521 5 miles from were the last ones were found just seen it on the bbc news

International health agency officials stressed that the H5N1 strain of avian influenza, in its existing form, infects humans only in rare instances and with great difficulty.

Europeans, they said, have little to fear for the moment. Yet the officials also warned that H521 shows extraordinary capacity to mutate and could rapidly turn into a virus able to spread from human to human

Pompey Mick · March 1, 2008

This could be ongoing for ever, the restrictions had only just been lifted and now they're back on again. It will be interesting to see if visitors are allowed into the swannery area

We race the west road early on and we were hoping to have two training races (for ETS purposes) on the 5th and 12th of April both points either side of the restricted area and could be affected by DEFRA rulings.