ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 trouble is pete peaple wont put stop to this nonsense if cotracded he gets paid so why is he charging twice for same job its because peaple pay him because of rpra suspension threat me i told him swing mate am i suspended no sued no care a f no
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 well theres a new kid on the block lets get the new gm to change the rules if scum like pest controller cant make money on us he wont do it and fanciers wont give them to him , if anybody is expelled from the association for non compliance everybody should back them and refuse to send birds racing for a week or two after all its a BUSINESS not a SPORT the loss of revenue would make them see sense Believe me you wont get the better of this guy he as been operating for over 30 years and as I posted before he is all above board,many people have tryed and come off the worse.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Believe me you wont get the better of this guy he as been operating for over 30 years and as I posted before he is all above board,many people have tryed and come off the worse. this is why
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Believe me you wont get the better of this guy he as been operating for over 30 years and as I posted before he is all above board,many people have tryed and come off the worse.have they tryed reporting it stolen [i bet not ]
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 no its the wise talking to the learning
Guest chrisss Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 its not the straycatcher that needs to be changed ,the rpra rule about strays needs to go until then they will keep charging for birds found,no stray rule then no straycatchers
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 he buys birds in then reports them is that his contracded work no thats theift and as he holds bird without permission can be charged with such
Guest chrisss Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 if you feel like trying your luck on this one, you could tell the police that he is holding your bird without permission from you under confinment and if its released it would come back to you,so why is he charging for you to get it back?,also have a look at the release bit on the flyer, if the bird is fit it should be released he is holding your bird for ransom,almost demanding money with menaces ie give me £5.00 or the rpra will do you
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Years ago every other letter in the BHW was about this guy and the way he operated but nobody ever got the better of him because he knows the law and the RPRA rules and he is within both,so dont try fighting him as loads have tryed before and regretted it.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Years ago every other letter in the BHW was about this guy and the way he operated but nobody ever got the better of him because he knows the law and the RPRA rules and he is within both,so dont try fighting him as loads have tryed before and regretted it. tony you his mate tell me why iwas not sus taken to court for5 or recaived anymore demands for money
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 if any one of you on here had a pigeon of mine come into your loft and you reported it ,i could go to the police and say that you have a pigeon of mine and that i belive you or some one else stole it from my loft because i never let it out ,even if it had a race rubber on as long as it was a day after the race .and i would get it back courticy of the police ,the only reason we pay to get it back from each other is that it is the done thing not to disrespect the hobby .
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 and i will let you into little secret he is part of stud as well or was
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Definatley no mate of mine,buy I do remember when this guy started up and all the problems that many fanciers have had with him,if I remember the then manager of the RPRA wrote in the BHW warning members to comply with the letter as they would be breaking RPRA rules if they didnt, if it is the same bloke,never know he may have sold the business to someone else but the paperwork is the same,think there was also a thread on here a few years ago about him.You must of been one of the lucky ones if you had no trouble from him.
ChrisMaidment08 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 no just not going to be treated like idiot
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 no just not going to be treated like idiot Must be hundreds of Idiots around then by what you say.I would sooner stick to rules than take the chance of being suspended.
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 Believe me you wont get the better of this guy he as been operating for over 30 years and as I posted before he is all above board,many people have tryed and come off the worse.pigeon man no disrespect but would you please answer this question [if you was in posesion of some thing that belongd to me and the police caught you with it and i can prove it is mine 100percent ,would you be aloud to keep it if i wanted it back ]yes or no .
pjc Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 I understand that a couple of years ago somebody payed him a visit while he was out and released all the birds from the holding loft, damn shame, but couldn't condone it of course!
pjc Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 most of his strays arn't cought they are taken there and any members taking birds there should be suspended!
tarzan Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 most of his strays arn't cought they are taken there and any members taking birds there should be suspended! this was mentioned years ago about members selling strays to him to hold other fanciers to ransome for monies to claim there birds back.because fanciers couldnt be bothered to report strays .there was also two ladies used to have a stray centre running along the same lines ,if they got your bird it was £5.00 to release ,if none payment suspension .and the rpra where always backing them.
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 the RPRA can make all the rules they want but when it is your property they have no say in the mater .
Guest shadow Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 when the birds are not in your custody you have little control over them pay up or face suspension that is the nitty gritty
PIGEON_MAN Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 pigeon man no disrespect but would you please answer this question [if you was in posesion of some thing that belongd to me and the police caught you with it and i can prove it is mine 100percent ,would you be aloud to keep it if i wanted it back ]yes or no . I think you are getting all mixed up over this, l hate what he is doing the same as everyone else but I do know over the years many have tried to take this man to task with the law and the RPRA and he as allways come out on top,this man is employed by the local council as a pest control agent,He is within the law to set traps etc to catch whatever and I suppose to deal with them anyway he can within the law,which he does,these arguments have been coming up year after year and still he is in business after over thirty years,I have read all these things people are coming up with all before be he is still there.
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 I think you are getting all mixed up over this, l hate what he is doing the same as everyone else but I do know over the years many have tried to take this man to task with the law and the RPRA and he as allways come out on top,this man is employed by the local council as a pest control agent,He is within the law to set traps etc to catch whatever and I suppose to deal with them anyway he can within the law,which he does,these arguments have been coming up year after year and still he is in business after over thirty years,I have read all these things people are coming up with all before be he is still there. but has he ever had a pigeon in his posesion that some one has reported stolen ,and if so i bet he had to give it back ,cant you all grasp this ,it is stolen property,wether or not he new it was stolen he cant charge the owner for it back the law does not allow this to happen ,other wise every tom dick and harry would be bying stolen goods to sell back to the owners .i know i am right if only he had one of my birds i would prove it ,[bRICK WALL AND HEAD BANGING]no wonder the hobby is going down hill fast .
sammy Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 but has he ever had a pigeon in his posesion that some one has reported stolen ,and if so i bet he had to give it back ,cant you all grasp this ,it is stolen property,wether or not he new it was stolen he cant charge the owner for it back the law does not allow this to happen ,other wise every tom dick and harry would be bying stolen goods to sell back to the owners .i know i am right if only he had one of my birds i would prove it ,[bRICK WALL AND HEAD BANGING]no wonder the hobby is going down hill fast . your right les ,someone put on here about rspb having alll the rings from nests and said they were hiolding stolen property ,same thing applies here
Guest Posted August 10, 2008 Report Posted August 10, 2008 when the birds are not in your custody you have little control over them pay up or face suspension that is the nitty grittyso if i broke into your loft and stole your birds ,then i get caught 4 weeks later i can charge you for looking after them ,and if you refuse to pay i can have you suspended .[i DONT THINK SO ]
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