Dr. Barker pigeons

[Guest]

A question for people in the know about the older British strains.

 

Can anyone help me out please, with some information on what were the foundation bloodlines of the Dr. Barker family?

 

I know that Dr Rigg had the Barkers (via Rueben Eastham i think), and he also had the Mons Gits pigeons, (i think that is the correct name) but i am particularly interested in where the Silver (Dun, Cream) genetic originates!

 

Just for personal interest! Cheers All!!

 

Dave

 

[Guest cloudview]

think most off the real old strains were    wegge based  and silver is just a dilute of blue

[jimmy white]

i used to have the  dr barkers book on the racing pigeon,, unfortunately lent out and never returned ,,many years ago,, my father swore blind by this book ,

there maybe some info in this old book as to the origins of the "barkers" and the "gits" .as i remember, my father had these pigeons for many years , the predominent factor in the  birds he had  were ,that  many had feathered legs.  

[OLDYELLOW]

the feathered leg has turned up in the older lines of Jan ardens i had years ago have a mealy with feathered legs this year

[paddymac]

the feathered leg has turned up in the older lines of Jan ardens i had years ago have a mealy with feathered legs this year

 

Where do you think the feathered leg in the Aardens are coming from, its not a usual trait of the Aarden family?

[OLDYELLOW]

from the gits and hanssenes ugly buggers but thats where there from

[paddymac]

The Old Gits were famous for their feather legs, ugly buggers but good pigeons

[Guest pigeon82]

do people still have these barkers i remember 16yrs ago when i was at a show and a pair of barkers were up in the raffle i actually won the raffle and we bred some good birds out of these but now the strain has died out in my fathers loft but they both lived up until last year they were 1990 birds and they were so powder blue it was beautiful to look at but just wondering if ne are still being bred as i dont see the strain much ne more mentioned

[paddymac]

They are still definately available Phil but I don't know how pure they would be.

[Guest pigeon82]

oh rite pat you mean with all the new strains coming in and cross breeding they also mentioned feathers on there legs but it was only when we had a youngster out of them that the youngster had legs full of feathers but we checked there pedigrees and it said that it was all the barker strain so we couldnt understand where that come from unless another cock bird got hold of the hen but we tried looking to see about the history of these barkers i think my dad may still have some info but ill let you all know

[paddymac]

Definately a good strain of birds Phil.

[Guest pigeon82]

i remember as a kid i was told i had the best breed people kept saying also i loved the janseens and kirkpatricks were a favourite

[paddymac]

Well Phil, I will certainly breed you a pair of Kirkpatricks next year if you are interested.  

[Guest pigeon82]

thanks mate that would be great wat type of distance do they fly mate i aint far off finishing the young bird section now just a few perches to get when ur man gets some in and the trap to do

[Guest]

They most certainly are a good strain, and they are still around over here in the UK, and winning!! More so in the Cheshire area! I was hoping for some information on the base of the family, just for personal interest. Particularly on where the Silver genetic originates.

 

WHERE ARE VIC & BILCO WHEN YOU NEED THEM???? LOL

[pj1001]

I think L Tuplin & Son of Galabank Lofts still has the old Barker pigeons. I know a fancier in our area bought some off him a couple of years back.

 

 

PJ

[paddymac]

Phil, The hen I timed out of Sennen Cove this year in a very hard race with poor returns. 2nd club, 5th Fed is Kirkpatrick crossed with distance birds from F. Tasker. Roger Mevaert.

[ChrisMaidment08]

caldicot southwales has fancier flying them very well caerwent south rd

[Guest]

A question for people in the know about the older British strains.

 

Can anyone help me out please, with some information on what were the foundation bloodlines of the Dr. Barker family?

 

I know that Dr Rigg had the Barkers (via Rueben Eastham i think), and he also had the Mons Gits pigeons, (i think that is the correct name) but i am particularly interested in where the Silver (Dun, Cream) genetic originates!

 

Just for personal interest! Cheers All!!

 

Dave  :-/

 

 

[paddymac]

L. Tuplin still advertises them for sale in the year books

[jimmy white]

think most off the real old strains were    wegge based  and silver is just a dilute of blue

 

i have a feeling cloudveiw could be on the right lines ,, the wegge,s were [i think] b4 the barker and gits [i have details of wegges in 1926 ] as pigeon racing ,more or less kicked off in the 1900,s theres possibly a good chance of these being wegge based in some way,

[jimmy_bulger]

i think there is an article on pipa about northrop barker somewhere.

[PIGEON_MAN]

A question for people in the know about the older British strains.

 

Can anyone help me out please, with some information on what were the foundation bloodlines of the Dr. Barker family?

 

I know that Dr Rigg had the Barkers (via Rueben Eastham i think), and he also had the Mons Gits pigeons, (i think that is the correct name) but i am particularly interested in where the Silver (Dun, Cream) genetic originates!

 

Just for personal interest! Cheers All!!

Dave

Is Northrop Barker the same fancier.If as I believe it is the very first birds that he had were a gift off his future father in law this was in 1865 but no mention of the strain,it wasnt until 1900 that he bought all of george gits surplus birds,but no mention of any Silvers,duns or cream coloured birds.

[Guest]

Thanks to the two Jimmy's & Cloudview!

 

If anyone else can answer my query then your help will be most appreciated!  

[Guest]

Is Northrop Barker the same fancier.If as I believe it is the very first birds that he had were a gift off his future father in law this was in 1865 but no mention of the strain,it wasnt until 1900 that he bought all of george gits surplus birds,but no mention of any Silvers,duns or cream coloured birds.

 

Hi Tony,

i don't think they are the same person, but he may be Dr W E Barker's father or grand father!! Cheers for your help though, i'll have a look on pipa for the article! I believe Dr Barker was coming into pigeon fame just after WW2!