Europa classic auction

[ChrisMaidment08]

Where does all the money go that these birds make

 

money goes to him as they dont write cheques out under 30 quid

[Guest tom123]

got to be honest i find the one loft set up ok

i quite often spend an hour or so down the lofts with dereck and russel and cant fault their hospitality and dedication

 

i suppose its only human nature if someone sets something up and its a success then people get jealous and knock it

[ChrisMaidment08]

tom me old mate like you i have spent time at lofts and noone with once sense could fault derecks hospitality or they would be lieing  i think what peaple dont like is the flyboy attitude he has to everything and you know he has  the lofts are spotless the birds a dream if dereck kept away and let others run it i think peaple would be more impressed and to be honest alter some of ideas on payments peaple if won 10 or 10.000 want money not cridet notes for next year this along with other things  peaple wont put up with its not because its success ful its not or lofts would be over run with birds  so its not jelousy its mistrust caused by its own running  take ourselfs 6 in never again   if hundred said no thats lot birds money due to one man it willl show next year i sure how many more wont enter

[Guest tom123]

like i say chris i have my own opinion on things

and what ever you or anyone else say, has FAR HAS IM CONCERNED its my personel look on it

obviouslly you are entitled to yours  and i respect that in the same way you do with me

the man or the organisation has done nothing to me to warrant a slagging off and has always treated me with respect and had the time to sit and have a chat when ever we have turned up  

its when people have never entered the europa and maybe never even met or spoke to the people involved that they condem them for a successful buisness

yes this year was a disaster in regards to the final race but this scheme has been going on for six years  and this his is only  mistake that they have made but he went for it

 

what people forget is these days noone does anything for nothing

[Guest]

why have a go at thease brave birds just because of the way the final race went any one who sends to 1 loft races send their best if they dont they are kidding themself on so as for some of the comments of £10 or so they are very brave birds to home in the conditions they did and deserve credit after all doo men pay thousands of pounds for y/birds from stock that haven,t flowan in years maybe never been outthats the s--t not thease birds

[Guest tom123]

in the end it

has most are saying about the weather they were liberated in etc

look at it from another angle regarding the comments made about the one loft racing and the final europa race of 2008

these birds had to fly it  on there own then  320 miles single up for a youngster how could you condem them and insult them with silly comments just ignorance i suppose

[Guest strapper]

back in 2006 when i bought 10 of the youngsters from the race, i phoned a certain fancier up in london ,whose bird i had bought.

when i spoke to him he was rather in a heated state of mind.

the bird of his i had bought who was in the bhw as a bird who came so and so in the final race.

well the fancier went on to tell me ,that he had been on the phone to derek and found that the bird i had bought was not in the final race and had returned when the birds were in scotland....from a recent hotspot race.

now i wasnt worried, as this bird has bred me card winners but it did start off with a bad taste in the mouth after learning this.

at the auction , i was impressed with their lofts and plenty of room inside them.

just one or two other things i did feel iffy about.

[Ronnie]

Pay your money and take your chance.Everyone has a choice and like has been said dont take anything away from the birds that made it home.Just a shame about the rumours and bad propaganda thats floating about about the europa one loft race.Maybe if all the cards where put on the table to start with and an independant regulator was appointed then a lot more people would have faith in the race.Still if you want a one loft race to take part in Pigeon basics has its own .Hopefully Philips will be running it again next year .

[ChrisMaidment08]

why have a go at thease brave birds just because of the way the final race went any one who sends to 1 loft races send their best if they dont they are kidding themself on so as for some of the comments of £10 or so they are very brave birds to home in the conditions they did and deserve credit after all doo men pay thousands of pounds for y/birds from stock that haven,t flowan in years maybe never been outthats the s--t not thease birds

okay sorry about 10quid remark try 5 as that is what some go forin fact in 2003 15 birds went one lot 25 quid   just remwember 50 percent loft 50 percent owner now find owner that had his50pc  no its cridet for next year

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

sorry 2005

[Guest spin cycle]

what happens to birds not sold ?

[ChrisMaidment08]

all birds are sold at end if youer intrested if its fiver its youers

[hepste]

got to be honest i find the one loft set up ok

i quite often spend an hour or so down the lofts with dereck and russel and cant fault their hospitality and dedication

 

i suppose its only human nature if someone sets something up and its a success then people get jealous and knock it

 

 

Tom, you make the assumption that people have criticised because they are jealous.  Wrong!  Fanciers have voiced their concerns about this race for a number of reasons.  One of the main reasons is the welfare of the birds, and also the bad publicity that the sport has received.  It doesn't help, when Mr Nicholls, on the website, refers to certain people who have dared criticise as being "scum".  Lo and behold, even more bad publicity!  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  Sometimes it is based on limited knowledge of the detail, or is ill founded, but they are entitled to express their viewpoint, nonetheless.  It is up to the reader of the material to make their own judgements.

[OLDYELLOW]

well i think to end a one loft race at 240 mile is nothing more than stupidity surely the best result would of been to have the last race from a hundred mile and have the drinks ectra after that race at least all birds should be back in good time.

[bombersbullets]

got to be honest i find the one loft set up ok

i quite often spend an hour or so down the lofts with dereck and russel and cant fault their hospitality and dedication

 

i suppose its only human nature if someone sets something up and its a success then people get jealous and knock it

WELL SAID TOM I THINK PEOPLE JUST TO SCARED OF GETTING BEAT THATS WHY THAY DONT ENTER LOL DEREK AND RUSS ARE TOP BOYS MAKE YOU ALLWAYS WELCOME. AND THE TIME THAY SPEND WORKING WITH THESE BIRD IS 100% WELL DONE LADS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I WILL BE IN IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR I LOVED IT.AND THE 500 RACE LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT SEE YOU THERE I HOPE TOM 8)

[ChrisMaidment08]

scared of getting beaten is that it  ;D ;D im sure most who had birds in this year would say a diffrent thing its one thing dereck being great when you visit and i would defy anyone to say diff or be rude on how birds are looked after or how efficant he runs loft but when it comes to other peaples money you have to think long hard at the way last race is run i think if they fly race  and week later have party and prizegiven then no one can say its all about that day  the mistake is to be careless  the birds did not have fair chance on the day and thats facts not fiction  it would be no prob to hold if no do on day

[ChrisMaidment08]

WELL SAID TOM I THINK PEOPLE JUST TO SCARED OF GETTING BEAT THATS WHY THAY DONT ENTER LOL DEREK AND RUSS ARE TOP BOYS MAKE YOU ALLWAYS WELCOME. AND THE TIME THAY SPEND WORKING WITH THESE BIRD IS 100% WELL DONE LADS KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK I WILL BE IN IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR I LOVED IT.AND THE 500 RACE LOOKIN FORWARD TO IT SEE YOU THERE I HOPE TOM 8)

 

and i wonder what you enjoyed was it waiting for birds or free food booze all day wonder if nothing freeor put on would you still be so energetic standing round for 3 days to get 46 birds home my answer   NO

[Guest spin cycle]

 

 

Tom, you make the assumption that people have criticised because they are jealous.  Wrong!  Fanciers have voiced their concerns about this race for a number of reasons.  One of the main reasons is the welfare of the birds, and also the bad publicity that the sport has received.  It doesn't help, when Mr Nicholls, on the website, refers to certain people who have dared criticise as being "scum".  Lo and behold, even more bad publicity!  Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  Sometimes it is based on limited knowledge of the detail, or is ill founded, but they are entitled to express their viewpoint, nonetheless.  It is up to the reader of the material to make their own judgements.

 

this pretty much 'sums up' the situation. true 'proffesionals' do not call their critics 'scum' no matter how they are taunted ( in public at least )...its one of the things that sets them apart.

[mroalan]

can someone on here tell me what happened to the pigeons that derick nicholls had in his the stock loft when spence/nicholls split, and what was the reason for the split?

[bombersbullets]

 

and i wonder what you enjoyed was it waiting for birds or free food booze all day wonder if nothing freeor put on would you still be so energetic standing round for 3 days to get 46 birds home my answer   NO

IF YOU WAS THERE M8 I WAS THE THE PERSON WHO CAMPED AT THE TOP OF THE FEILD FOR 3 DAYS AND I LOVED IT WAS PROPER HOPE TO BE THERE EVERY YEAR.  8)

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

be better camping in pop festavil

[Guest spin cycle]

be better camping in pop festavil

 

you obviously didn't use the toilets at glastonbury in 1986

[bombersbullets]

be better camping in pop festavil

   DONE ALL THAT M8 8)

 

 

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

you obviously didn't use the toilets at glastonbury in 1986

 

try   carrier bags better

[bombersbullets]

BAGS ALL GOOD !! 8)