Who's the best fancier in Wales?

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

so your hard work then where ever you go i assume

tom you should hop on there and tell them you are concerned at amount of birds hawks are killing then when they ban you we will laugh they cant see anything real only whats written in books

 

 

[Wiley]

got to be denis ford for me

[ChrisMaidment08]

yes has flown well

[Guest tom123]

theres been a few lofts about worthy of a mention

[ChrisMaidment08]

includeing mine ;D ;D

[Guest tom123]

smith and jenkins in pontypool had a good young bird season wiining 9 from 10 club races topping s.r.fed 4/5/times

[ChrisMaidment08]

myself i would only look at small flyers with good results not big flyers

[Guest tom123]

they only flew 10 youngsters chris

[ChrisMaidment08]

smith and jenkins in pontypool had a good young bird season wiining 9 from 10 club races topping s.r.fed 4/5/times

 

yes tom but birds come round for some reason and drop that way always has been case i know they still have to be there to win

[ChrisMaidment08]

they only flew 10 youngsters chris

 

it was not reply tom

[ChrisMaidment08]

its odd but srb always come round from chepstow and through vally then back to us

[steve]

smith and jenkins in pontypool had a good young bird season wiining 9 from 10 club races topping s.r.fed 4/5/times

 

 

if i was looking for birds i wouldn't even look at there young bird results

i would be more intrested in the distance i wanted  to be successful at

then birds sent  

just my opinion of course

[Guest strapper]

without a 2nd thought, john and pat webber, 4-5 weeks on the trot this year, topping the welsh north road fed s/east route, and winning the lilliers national, won several nationals north and south east.

dennis ford is an exellent flyer but against webber in fed birdage size there is no comparison.

both are likeable and great flyers.

dennis is one for the distance races while webber will chip in too but is better upto say 300-400 mls.

 

[Guest]

Alun Maull

[Guest strapper]

Alun Maull

 

i dont think alan races anymore, i think the thread was about racing today.

 

if im wrong i apologize to alun.

 

[Guest asha]

Wilf Reed, Gordon & June Mears two totally different setups,one big,one small as a postage stamp,both Multiple 600/700mile national winners.most importantly,novices take note...big winners OFF the line of flight. ;)

[Guest strapper]

Wilf Reed, Gordon & June Mears two totally different setups,one big,one small as a postage stamp,both Multiple 600/700mile national winners.most importantly,novices take note...big winners OFF the line of flight. ;)

 

agree great flyers but they are distance flyers, and very good at it!, but birdage has to feature when accessing who is better. and overall stats.

i recommended j+p webber but i forgot to mention iddie davies, who has dominated fed racing with big birdage for years.

dont think anyone has mentioned him either?

 

 

 

[Guest asha]

but birdage has to feature when accessing who is better.

 

What a silly statement to make,nubers mean NOTHING,its the CLASS of the birds taking part that`s important,no wonder you lot on here buy the crap that`s on the for sale section,it makes me laugh

[harky]

while we are on the subject of welsh fanciers has anybody got a contact telephone no for john bekinsale ,your help would be appreciated   :) :) :)

[Guest strapper]

 

What a silly statement to make,nubers mean NOTHING,its the CLASS of the birds taking part that`s important,no wonder you lot on here buy the crap that`s on the for sale section,it makes me laugh

 

i think everybody can see the crap on here when they read ur post, there is a difference when ur racing against 3-4000 decent pigeons to 200, this is what i meant.

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[Guest ben]

;D ;D :you certainly cannot educate pork!

[wayne77]

 

agree great flyers but they are distance flyers, and very good at it!, but birdage has to feature when accessing who is better. and overall stats.

i recommended j+p webber but i forgot to mention iddie davies, who has dominated fed racing with big birdage for years.

dont think anyone has mentioned him either?

 

 

 

 

Strapper it depends on the big factor 'what distance we are assessing a fancier at.  Unfortunately the longer races do not get as high a birdage as shorter ones but this does not mean the performance is ot as good.  We have all seen fanciers pile big numbers into short races but by time the long ones come not many go.  

You have to remember I prefer 500 miles plus.  So I would judge that fancier as best and really not give hoot about birdage as long as calibre of other competing fanciers was high and sent numbers by fancier not high.

To me 2008 season Dennis Ford has been outstanding, come on any BICC win into Wales is great never mind an International.  Get a map out look at it and just imagine what that bird has done. Hence for me Dennis Ford.

 

But saying that the names you have mentioned are great flyers and i would welcome birds into my loft from any of them.

 

Lets chane question.

 

Which currently best sprint loft in Wales?

 

Which currently best Middle distance(200-400miles) loft in Wales?

 

Which currently best distance(400 plus miles) loft in Wales?

 

[Guest]

 

i dont think alan races anymore, i think the thread was about racing today.

 

if im wrong i apologize to alun.

 

The thread says best fancier in Wales, that's very clear????? Whether he is racing doesn't take away from the fact that he is the best fancier in Wales without a doubt, a master racer when racing and a master breeder now with an encyclopedic knowledge of our sport, Asha mentioned some great fanciers but for me Maully's above them

[Guest strapper]

 

The thread says best fancier in Wales, that's very clear????? Whether he is racing doesn't take away from the fact that he is the best fancier in Wales without a doubt, a master racer when racing and a master breeder now with an encyclopedic knowledge of our sport, Asha mentioned some great fanciers but for me Maully's above them

 

there have been a lot if we want to go back beyond those that are racing now.

if i thought the question meant at any time past or present then surely alun would have to be mentioned in those greats.

along with taffy bowen etc.

 

[Guest strapper]

 

 

Strapper it depends on the big factor 'what distance we are assessing a fancier at.  Unfortunately the longer races do not get as high a birdage as shorter ones but this does not mean the performance is ot as good.  We have all seen fanciers pile big numbers into short races but by time the long ones come not many go.  

You have to remember I prefer 500 miles plus.  So I would judge that fancier as best and really not give hoot about birdage as long as calibre of other competing fanciers was high and sent numbers by fancier not high.

To me 2008 season Dennis Ford has been outstanding, come on any BICC win into Wales is great never mind an International.  Get a map out look at it and just imagine what that bird has done. Hence for me Dennis Ford.

 

But saying that the names you have mentioned are great flyers and i would welcome birds into my loft from any of them.

 

Lets chane question.

 

Which currently best sprint loft in Wales?

 

Which currently best Middle distance(200-400miles) loft in Wales?

 

Which currently best distance(400 plus miles) loft in Wales?

 

 

hi wayne i didnt mean sprint against distance , what i was referring too is birdage of any equal distance .ie 450mls south or 450mls south east...but greater birdage on one of them....500 birds south compared to 1000 birds south east, which would you rather win?..surely it would be more recognition for winning the south east because of birdage..this is what i was trying to get across.

i was not knocking the quality of fanciers in smaller feds .

wining either would be great .