befor pairing up

[newbold]

what do you treat for befor pairing up, and why

[OLDYELLOW]

i treat for anything my vet tells me too other than that nothing if not ailing why treat them  

[frank-123]

old yellow does the vet check every bird?

how much does your vet charge?

[OLDYELLOW]

i take random samples and select a bird in loft , depends on how much is wrong with them to how much it costs , but id rather pay to ensure theres no underlying problems  

[frank-123]

so if you take 50% of your birds samples the other 50%might have something wrong which would go undetected

if your vet said the 50% he checked had canker the other 50% might have nothing wrong with them but you would flock treat?

[OLDYELLOW]

well my birds all have either a perch or box from this ill remove a single dropping from each , then i get a knife and mix into a paste then this is what the vet tests and yes id treat the entire loft the same , my stock cocks only mix with stock hens my race cocks only mix with race hens stock hens and race hens are kept together at this time of year so this loft will be the one where younger birds and older birds are and more likely to have a wider range of my colonys problems as old birds are more robust and ybs arent so this is how i do it , if i had a problem back end of season and been to vets i would probably only treat with tkk and for worms nothing else , but i find its more benificial to my pocket and birds health treating for conditions that need treating

[frank-123]

i treat for canker,cocci and worms i might try a vet in falkirk this year

thanks for your reply's oldyellow

[newbold]

how come a lot of the fancy say treat for cocci,cank and worms

[OLDYELLOW]

try finding a DEFRA aproved vet that specialises in Avian then you'l get what your paying for  

[frank-123]

how come a lot of the fancy say treat for cocci,cank and worms

 

they don't have a vet who is interested in pigeons and they want to make sure there pigeons are clear before breeding

[OLDYELLOW]

how come a lot of the fancy say treat for cocci,cank and worms

 

people treat blind , birds will however get stressed at this time and cankering after they have laid is more benifical to the squabs as canker can be a problem due to the stress and birds mixing  

[newbold]

i also use a vet but i go and tel him what i want it for then he tells me what i want and to be honest its cheaper than pigeon supplyers

[OLDYELLOW]

it's definately cheaper as you will be treating specific disease's or infections with the corect medication for the job not the full shop shelfs worth

[Guest IB]

how come a lot of the fancy say treat for cocci,cank and worms

 

Maybe speaking out of turn, but it wasn't always that way. Seems UK fanciers imported this practice from mainland Europe when they imported their birds in large numbers.

 

And from what I can tell (my opinion only) its really part of the widowhood method, where the cocks are racing every week and basically don't seem to be able to do it without medication.

 

Only need to look at health problems said to rife in Europe to see what long term affect of repeatedly medicating pigeons could be.

[OLDYELLOW]

cant agree more IB , the more you prop birds up with medication the more you loose the robustness and health of your flock in the baskets   years ago you had an ill bird it was removed not proped up , now there propped up and get more diseases than ever , natures way is survial and so it shall be survival of the fitest healthest and fastes

[newbold]

cheers oldyellow for your reply,got to go up at 6 work.

[OLDYELLOW]

more than welcome newbold been a good thread

[Lennut Tar]

how come a lot of the fancy say treat for cocci,cank and worms

 

Well what can I say now   :P have you ever watched etc a flock of sheep in a paddock  ;D ;D ;D.

Enjoy.

 

 

[jimmy white]

watched a cd last night [or rather bits of it ;D] on yb racing , frank tasker and many others mostly belgians ,, i noticed that no one mentioned treating for cocci?

[The Navigator]

I treat for cocci, canker and worms. Been doing that for years and not done me any harm.

[Lennut Tar]

watched a cd last night [or rather bits of it ;D] on yb racing , frank tasker and many others mostly belgians ,, i noticed that no one mentioned treating for cocci?

 

Yes !!!!!!!!!   ;) but what ?????????, would they really know now   :P   ;D ;D ;D.

Enjoy.

 

 

[jimmy white]

what do you treat for befor pairing up, and why

 

most treat for cocci , canker and worms ,,and   recently, and more  common now for paratyphoid , i think the reasons would be obvious ,, to hatch and rear robust healthy yb,s