any ideas

[Guest pigeon82]

i have four late breds which i got off a freind in grimsby they are flipping about in the loft pretty well but they have been outside his loft twice wondering ne ideas to help before i let them out in a couple of weeks i dont want to soak them or clip there wings as we got a big hawk around us and they wud ave no cchance of getting away i just want some ideas to see how long u wud keep them in before u try to let them out and wat to do to keep them here i ave no other birds to let out wiv them so im trying to break them

[OLDYELLOW]

rear around of ybs next season then at least you'l have some birds then when rearing second round and have big ybs let the go out on there own they'll probably not venture far as feeding ybs

[Guest pigeon82]

yeah but im over in northern ireland and i am getting another 20 or 30 yong birds off me dad in january stroke february but i want to get these late breds out before i get them out so theyll see the area

[Michael J Burden]

I know how to break rollers in this way. Keep them a little hungry and get them tuned into you and the tin for food. Once you are happy that they respond to you get some of your birds out for a fly and if you have time lock them out for a while so they have no interest in flying. Get your newbies out with them. And stay with them and teases them with a little food. Only let them have a few minutes out each time and increase the time that they have outside side at each exercise. Then when they are looking like they are happy and familiar with the outside let out your own for a fly, get them in and let the newbies out on their own. If they go up don't worry yet. watch and see what they do. They may start diving and begin looking for you. Call them and encourage them down. If you are having problems getting them dowm go and get one from the loft and play it around out side sending it up and down the loft etc. If this one does not work get another one. A red pigeon or one with white on works best.

 

By keeping them hungry I do not mean starving them, keep them on 50% barley 50% good corn, feed once a day until they leave barely. They remain hungry but are not starving.

 

Hope this helps.

[Guest pigeon82]

i have moved to northern ireland and left my dads partnership so am starting over so i have no birds that have been out yet these are the first four of my new loft and set up so im just trying to get them out asap but not to nquick so they disaappear straight away

[Leroy]

i dont race but broke a dozen young birds to my loft this year by getting into an evening time feeding routine. then when i was happy the birds were responsive to my whistle i let them out about half an hour before it went dark. because it was late and they were hungry they only went up to the roof and came in when called. i did this every day for a fortnight, slowly increasing the amount of time they had out.

 

the advantage of doing it before dark, is that if they go up and get spooked, they dont have all day to get lost so dont go too far. only lost one YB off the loft, although one did come back but was killed by the dog

[Guest pigeon82]

thanks gud idea i only had them sincemonday 24th but just starting to fly around perches confidently now ill try this next week

[DUBLINFLYER]

try an put them in a sighting cage for a week or two, dnt try an break them until they are used to the loft an its odour

[jimmy white]

try an put them in a sighting cage for a week or two, dnt try an break them until they are used to the loft an its odour

 

yes ,i would agree with this , but also to get them  used to their new owner[confidence]  and use of  any sound [i,e rattling tin of corn] connecting with their food  

[DUBLINFLYER]

yeah sure i'd go with that, maybe try them late in the evening to start with

[Guest joshdonlan]

put them in a cage on top of loft roof then tape their wings when you let them out 1st time.

[Guest]

put them in a cage on top of loft roof then tape their wings when you let them out 1st time.

 

And hope the hawks aren't about  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest IB]

I agree with your thinking about not letting young birds out that can't fly. There's too much out there now and they need to be strong enough on the wing to keep themselves out of trouble.

 

Use the first 2/3 weeks to get the birds used to you, your routine and their surroundings. Use it to get control over them, that is when you feed them, make a fuss, call them, get them to come to the feeder at your call.

 

If its a landing board you have, put a cage over the trap and let them go backwards and forwards thro the trap into a cage and back into the loft. Before you let the birds out, make sure that they know the way in. You might want to consider showing them the front of the loft, then putting them through the trap into it.

 

Would not under any circumstances let them out for first time in growing darkness. One fright and they're away, don't know the area, can't see that well, could collide with anything.

 

Its a nervous time for all of us getting birds settled / out for 1st time.  

[Guest Freebird]

I agree with your thinking about not letting young birds out that can't fly. There's too much out there now and they need to be strong enough on the wing to keep themselves out of trouble.

 

Use the first 2/3 weeks to get the birds used to you, your routine and their surroundings. Use it to get control over them, that is when you feed them, make a fuss, call them, get them to come to the feeder at your call.

 

If its a landing board you have, put a cage over the trap and let them go backwards and forwards thro the trap into a cage and back into the loft. Before you let the birds out, make sure that they know the way in. You might want to consider showing them the front of the loft, then putting them through the trap into it.

 

Would not under any circumstances let them out for first time in growing darkness. One fright and they're away, don't know the area, can't see that well, could collide with anything.

 

Its a nervous time for all of us getting birds settled / out for 1st time.  

Agree this is sound advice. I have recently homed birds that had never been outside in thier lives. Do as I.B. says then when the decision to try them out is made you will know what bird has the most intelligence, tameness etc. Let him out on his own with the other birds in sight i.e. in a cage or flight. After 5 mins or so call him in. If successfull then do same for a couple of days then add another bird and so on. Unfortunately this is hawk time so it is going to be difficult. This worked for me although the first bird was out all night but came back in the morning. A lot of it will be down to the birds in question though. Good luck.

 

 

[Guest pigeon82]

thanks fellas i have got them out now been out 3 times and in i just went out and spent time with them every hour i wud go out for about 15 20 minutes whistling and talking shaking the tin i now have them out and they are doing really well so thanks for the advice but thought i wud try my own idea and it worked but will consider using some of ur advice in the near future as some really good ideas thank you