can anyone help??

[OLDYELLOW]

add half a pot to the birds days feed add lemon juice and brewers yeast stir in and feed after one hour , i rarely feed barely although i know its great benifits but wouldnt hurt giving them wheat and a few beans / pulses , mine are on 18% maples 82% wheat

[Guest IB]

I have just phoned and obtained the results of the second set of samples I sent off. They said the birds have a small reading of cocci and a small reading of yeast in the droppings. Everything else come back clear. Maybe the two products did clear up the yeast and small bacteria sample I had in the throat sample on the first tests. I will treat for the cocci now, and then I think I am going to buy a bag of peas and let them eat these and give the birds a break from the barley and maize. Maybe there throats are sore from these and having a break will improve this. Any ideas?

 

Your results don't show a problem with cocci, so you are wasting your time treating for it. Remember too that yeast (and bacteria) are normal in the gut, so a small reading isn't a problem.

 

Birds are a lot different from humans. We feel uncomfortable with stuff in our gullet taking its time to get to our stomach. Birds gullets are like an extension to their crop, and they can load the gullet up with food, sometimes looks as if they have a problem, but they don't. To put it in perspective, a gull chick can be fed a fish twice its size, so that the tail sticks out its beak for yonks, without any ill effect.

 

Some of your birds appear to be gorging before they go to the water. Maybe you should change your feeding method (rather than the feeding) to 'little and often' to stop that gorging. As Oldyellow says, if you are worried put something simple in the water, like cider acid vinegar 5ml per litre, or a crushed garlic clove. Samples results show you haven't a major problem, so either of these will tackle it.

[weecunny]

try over feeding them for a few days and then watch them feed

[andrew gooch]

perfiectly helthy a credit to u. filling up with oxygen will stop when there on young and the crop gets larger

[Guest strapper]

Hi, I had the samples tested through the post, and they presribed the treatment. I am waiting on a second set of results coming back tomorrow (Lizzie Rigsby)I have tried all kinds of vets to see if the are able to help me. My local ones said they didnt deal with pigeons and would not do the swob tests for me. They passed me onto an avian vet in Cardiff who said they werent really clued up on pigeons and to try a vet in Usk. I have not heard back from them! I tried a number I had for a Tom Pennycott in Scotland but he didnt take the birds through the post. I have contacted two very well known vets from the pigeon world - Dr Wim Peters and Dr Colin Walker.  But getting a vet around this area to be able to sort my problem out is just a nightmare. If anyone knows of a vet that would be able to help me please could I have there details. Cheers

 

 

 

the vet you are mentioning is graeme smith.....a very well respected vet and who i visit on a regular basis,a nice guy to chat to and will laugh along with you.

he has many fanciers on his book and ive seen them there from all round wales...and even some from england.

only thing is graeme is slowly giving up his career and only comes in to the practise on certain days.

graeme is top bloke when pigeons are mentioned..heres their number ...01291 672637

[andrecrock]

try over feeding them for a few days and then watch them feed

 

I agree,over feed them on all the smaller seeds 2 or 3 days and then back on normal feed.They might settel down,i see this alot with my hens which i starve on sundays.On monday's a feed them smaller seeds first and then top them up with full mix.Dont forget grit and minerals....Hope this helps.

[rasbull]

Cheers for the advice everyone. I will try that vet in Usk again then and see what they have to say. I am unsure whether to pair up now or wait until this has sorted itself out.

[Larry Lucas]

Pigeons behaving as though grains are stuck in their throat is normal. Usually it happens when they are eating rapidly and competing for a spot at the feeder. Mine often display this when they are learning to eat peanuts. Nothing to worry about. Check your feed mix to see if the percentage of grains is larger than normal. Not a big deal at all.

[rasbull]

Just fed the birds this morning on Tic beans and peas. New video on youtube at - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vJnrOhbM1WA

[pjc]

if your worried about the food change them to a young bird no maize mixture and they get a good mix.

[Guest]

Just fed the birds this morning on Tic beans and peas. New video on youtube at - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vJnrOhbM1WA

 

:Pall seems to be well now rasbull ,have you fed them a diffrent mix then ??                   andy.

[rasbull]

I just handpicked out the maize from the mix I was using. I also fed them a little earlier so they were not as hungry. I have put some cider vinegar in the water also. But all appeared well this lunch time when the birds were fed, so fingers crossed.