Guest marksimpson Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 can any one solve a puzzel why when you breed and race your birds do they take it in mind to just up and go never to be seen again very puzzeling any answears to this puzzel its beaten me ?
Guest Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 Are you sure they are not the victims of "percy"
just ask me Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 can any one solve a puzzel why when you breed and race your birds do they take it in mind to just up and go never to be seen again very puzzeling any answears to this puzzel its beaten me ? have heard of this before usually they are frightened in some way or a Percy or sparrowhawk this time of year are deadly
OLDYELLOW Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 have seen it with young birds , sometimes you have to work out what went wrong , flying ybs with old hens after weaned the old birds know where home is and can take young squeakers that arent settled up and away and gone as struck up too soon , some just dont have the love of home or have the call of the wild or no brains either way i'd split pairings and try a different pairing
just ask me Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 also too many birds a major cause of this i kind of proved it last 2 year a friend was losing 20 to 30 birds every year i told him to breed 30 birds less he did last 2 year and now id loses are below 10 i think a loft works it self out try it have done this with a few pll and it worked breed only 30 if an average u are left with 30 every year now a disaster race cant come into it work out your average looses it works
Guest marksimpson Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 also too many birds a major cause of this i kind of proved it last 2 year a friend was losing 20 to 30 birds every year i told him to breed 30 birds less he did last 2 year and now id loses are below 10 i think a loft works it self out try it have done this with a few pll and it worked breed only 30 if an average u are left with 30 every year now a disaster race cant come into it work out your average looses it works yes i can relate to that but when you only have 18 cock in a section with 35 boxes will this still apply ?
just ask me Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 yes i can relate to that but when you only have 18 cock in a section with 35 boxes will this still apply ? either a hawk ot there frighned hard to say when ur not there any rats or things like this could be on loft floor at night do u watch them when they fly
just ask me Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 maybe a camra in the loft might be an idea u never know what there when ure not there also set traps around loft id bet there something
Guest marksimpson Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 maybe a camra in the loft might be an idea u never know what there when ure not there also set traps around loft id bet there something ok will have to look into a camara wire less systeam to monitor ongoings within loft ?
jimmy white Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 also too many birds a major cause of this i kind of proved it last 2 year a friend was losing 20 to 30 birds every year i told him to breed 30 birds less he did last 2 year and now id loses are below 10 i think a loft works it self out try it have done this with a few pll and it worked breed only 30 if an average u are left with 30 every year now a disaster race cant come into it work out your average looses it works i beleive this to be true [no so sure in this case, could be many reasons] but in the above post , it is a well known fact that our modern day pigeon is derived from the rock dove, the true rock dove usually nesting in caves ,cliffs etc ,, and would keep on breeding as long as their food is plenty,, how far could this go, in breeding and inbreeding, they would be standing on top of each other :)then freaks ,,,, i beleive that nature makes sure of this outcross by , when over crowded, causes a fly away ,, a flyaway with young stock, that would find another a lesser populated colony in some far off way, from this overcrowded colony, therefore settle and cross breed again untill the same happened again,, i beleive our modern day pigeon still posseses this instict,, being one of the reasons of a flyaway with yb,s only my opinion
Guest marksimpson Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 i beleive this to be true [no so sure in this case, could be many reasons] but in the above post , it is a well known fact that our modern day pigeon is derived from the rock dove, the true rock dove usually nesting in caves ,cliffs etc ,, and would keep on breeding as long as their food is plenty,, how far could this go, in breeding and inbreeding, they would be standing on top of each other :)then freaks ,,,, i beleive that nature makes sure of this outcross by , when over crowded, causes a fly away ,, a flyaway with young stock, that would find another a lesser populated colony in some far off way, from this overcrowded colony, therefore settle and cross breed again untill the same happened again,, i beleive our modern day pigeon still posseses this instict,, being one of the reasons of a flyaway with yb,s only my opinion thanks for your comments jimmy i can relate to the fly a way as 5 years ago had a good strong team of 40 strong young birds let out early one sunny morning never saw a feather since never got any reported either ?
Guest marksimpson Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 mark did they go off with them fans down road at all :-/ no bin down and had a look round his not there
bird man of meath Posted February 2, 2009 Report Posted February 2, 2009 i had same prob only small loft and only small amount of birds dont think has anything 2 do with over crowding just so harte breaking doing all the work and they just clear off
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