honest opinion

[PATTY BHOY]

Going back to basics is all down to your own beliefs and convictions.

It all depends on whether you truly believe a pigeon needs a product to fly home and or win a race if that is your aim. I could give you two articles to read. Two top flyers both consistently performing, one medicates and one does not. Do you believe that, do think it is possible. Which one will you follow?

 

What sort of person are you? Do you have the patient that can allow you to withdraw from medication and the consequences that follow? Can you stick it out?

 

Do you believe it is possible to top the fed (sprint) with two different birds a fortnight apart with only 5 mins of exercise twice a day?

Do you believe it is possible to do this with no medication and on a diet of 50% £5 per bag dusty mixed chicken grain and 50% £5.50 per bag turkey and game pellets?

Do you think it is possible to be one of only three fanciers, at a vets specialising in pigeons and testing hundreds of birds, to have their birds show no cocci, canker or worms despite no medication?

 

 

[The Navigator]

I know a guy who as won the national and been 2nd open. He feeds the cheapest corn possible and does not use any medication what's so ever. All he uses is lime in the water and cider vinigar. So maybe all this top stuff we are supposed to give them is a farce.

[nogin]

ANYTHING'S POSSIBLE  :-/

[Guest youngzimmy]

and a very expencive farce at that navigator

[Guest]

All i would say really, is most top fanciers i know will have some sort of regime in place that guarantees the condition of their birds, wether it be medication or testing of droppings etc. Remember if your completely natural, then you assume because your birds look well they are 100%, but if you have droppings tested and birds medicated correctly then you know they are 100%!

 

But of course good health is only part of the equation to success, and will not make up for all the fanciers failures!

[Guest]

Going back to basics is all down to your own beliefs and convictions.

It all depends on whether you truly believe a pigeon needs a product to fly home and or win a race if that is your aim. I could give you two articles to read. Two top flyers both consistently performing, one medicates and one does not. Do you believe that, do think it is possible. Which one will you follow?

 

What sort of person are you? Do you have the patient that can allow you to withdraw from medication and the consequences that follow? Can you stick it out?

 

Do you believe it is possible to top the fed (sprint) with two different birds a fortnight apart with only 5 mins of exercise twice a day?

Do you believe it is possible to do this with no medication and on a diet of 50% £5 per bag dusty mixed chicken grain and 50% £5.50 per bag turkey and game pellets?

Do you think it is possible to be one of only three fanciers, at a vets specialising in pigeons and testing hundreds of birds, to have their birds show no cocci, canker or worms despite no medication?

 

 

Well I can really, my belief is that without the quality pigeon you can't do owt, I know there's those that say they could win with anything.. sorry not at the highest level, it has to be a quality pigeon, which this guy must have. It has to have health, I can believe he does not medicate but I also believe he will give some natural substance to have a nil count and that is a secret worth knowing, as i assume he has not declared it. Exercise, I can believe, if you think my birds were kept in last winter for 7 months and again this (haven't been out since the first week in September) and they won at 473 miles and high up in the NFC at 556 miles  and only training two tosses before 1st race and a 60 miler prior to the last race.Locked out of the loft at exercise to do what they want.

Would like to read the article of the non medicine man

[widowhooder]

think if u treat them u cant stop it or they go doon

[jimmy white]

having been on many" panels" at moots etc, i have often noticed  four" top pigeon racers" on the stage,[at many different moots]  with four completely different management systems  and methods,but all one thing in common,, race winners ,,, in my opinion,  as  with pigeons , there are  many roads leading to rome

i quite often liken it to a giant jig-saw puzzle , one that can never be finished    but, the more  peices  you can fit to-gether,,,,,,,,,the more successful you will be

[OLDYELLOW]

 

Well I can really, my belief is that without the quality pigeon you can't do owt, I know there's those that say they could win with anything.. sorry not at the highest level, it has to be a quality pigeon, which this guy must have. It has to have health, I can believe he does not medicate but I also believe he will give some natural substance to have a nil count and that is a secret worth knowing, as i assume he has not declared it. Exercise, I can believe, if you think my birds were kept in last winter for 7 months and again this (haven't been out since the first week in September) and they won at 473 miles and high up in the NFC at 556 miles  and only training two tosses before 1st race and a 60 miler prior to the last race.Locked out of the loft at exercise to do what they want.

Would like to read the article of the non medicine man

 

can get a nil count with 2 products one from Aviform other from Backs   Backs willow bark tea

 

Protects the pigeons from gut parasites and bacteria (bacteria coli, salmonellae, coccidiae and worms). With the regular use of Backs willow bark tea, faeces tests almost always turn out to be negative! Expensive cures are therefore unnecessary.

[kipper]

i never had all these cures and tonics ect 30 years ago, birds still flew well and kept healthy with good feed , clean loft ,  perhaps all these things you get now are just to part us from hard earned cash . all the tonics in the world wont make a bad bird win.          

 

 

     did you have a good holiday oldyellow.

[OLDYELLOW]

i never had all these cures and tonics ect 30 years ago, birds still flew well and kept healthy with good feed , clean loft ,  perhaps all these things you get now are just to part us from hard earned cash . all the tonics in the world wont make a bad bird win.          

 

 

     did you have a good holiday oldyellow.

 

had a great holiday thank you ;-)

[Guest shadow]

I would never treat blind get them tested and use the minimum you can, never propped up failing young birds they never do any good : : :

[Guest spin cycle]

Going back to basics is all down to your own beliefs and convictions.

It all depends on whether you truly believe a pigeon needs a product to fly home and or win a race if that is your aim. I could give you two articles to read. Two top flyers both consistently performing, one medicates and one does not. Do you believe that, do think it is possible. Which one will you follow?

 

What sort of person are you? Do you have the patient that can allow you to withdraw from medication and the consequences that follow? Can you stick it out?

 

Do you believe it is possible to top the fed (sprint) with two different birds a fortnight apart with only 5 mins of exercise twice a day?

Do you believe it is possible to do this with no medication and on a diet of 50% £5 per bag dusty mixed chicken grain and 50% £5.50 per bag turkey and game pellets?

Do you think it is possible to be one of only three fanciers, at a vets specialising in pigeons and testing hundreds of birds, to have their birds show no cocci, canker or worms despite no medication?

 

i'm guessing that its a bit of a 'leading question' in that, you know of such a fancier. my answer would be don't know....but if he's feeding turkey and game pellets there could be some sort of medication in those feeds .