Mobile Phone Masts = Increased Losses

[Guest]

Having considered why we have, over the past 20 years, seen an ever increasing pattern of young bird losses, It is becoming more apparent that one of the major factors for this could be due to the Radio Activity emitted by Mobile Phone Masts.

Some interesting reading:-

 

http://omega.twoday.net/stories/286416/

 

I don't for one minute conclude that this is the sole reason for losses of pigeons, but combined with increased BOP attacks and changes in weather patterns, it is not difficult to see why the Hobby/Sport is encountering an ever increasing up hill battle.

 

What are members thought?

[Guest strapper]

bob..the ministry have a new radio signal reciever in use,its been working now for 3-4 weeks.

it sends out a signal which picks up other signals...its for terrorism in the uk.

its supoposed to be even greater power then the older one.

dont know if its anything to do with it but its most prob the same as the mobile phone masts signals.

[pjc]

I lived very close to major hospital and ambulance control centre which also house a mobile phone mast and cant say it had any effect on the birds.

[jakjak]

Having considered why we have, over the past 20 years, seen an ever increasing pattern of young bird losses, It is becoming more apparent that one of the major factors for this could be due to the Radio Activity emitted by Mobile Phone Masts.

Some interesting reading:-

 

http://omega.twoday.net/stories/286416/

 

I don't for one minute conclude that this is the sole reason for losses of pigeons, but combined with increased BOP attacks and changes in weather patterns, it is not difficult to see why the Hobby/Sport is encountering an ever increasing up hill battle.

 

What are members thought?

 

Well I think there is too many pigeons around with a poor immune system. This is usually down do antibiotic use. Also, there is too many fanciers who wish to 'prop' up a sick pigeon with antibiotics. if I get a sick pigeon, I kill it, no second thoughts. My loft is natural immunity and I keep my youngsters every year.

I have had pigeons from antibiotic users and they have gone down like flys......crap!

Also, some fanciers inject against pmv from weaning.......this to me is not good. wait til your youngsters are strong.

notice how your BEST pigeons are NEVER ill!!

JMO

[Guest strapper]

I lived very close to major hospital and ambulance control centre which also house a mobile phone mast and cant say it had any effect on the birds.

 

maybe they are on orange network and your pigeons are on voda fone phil ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest strapper]

 

Well I think there is too many pigeons around with a poor immune system. This is usually down do antibiotic use. Also, there is too many fanciers who wish to 'prop' up a sick pigeon with antibiotics. if I get a sick pigeon, I kill it, no second thoughts. My loft is natural immunity and I keep my youngsters every year.

I have had pigeons from antibiotic users and they have gone down like flys......crap!

Also, some fanciers inject against pmv from weaning.......this to me is not good. wait til your youngsters are strong.

notice how your BEST pigeons are NEVER ill!!

JMO

 

 

i vaccinated my youngsters this year just after weaning them,...this year so far no probs with them..no ybs either....every other year i vaccinate much later.

there are curruntly two different illnesses that break down the imune system in ALL birds wether they are national winners or streeters......a virus is something any bird can catch.

 

 

 

[jimmy white]

 

Well I think there is too many pigeons around with a poor immune system. This is usually down do antibiotic use. Also, there is too many fanciers who wish to 'prop' up a sick pigeon with antibiotics. if I get a sick pigeon, I kill it, no second thoughts. My loft is natural immunity and I keep my youngsters every year.

I have had pigeons from antibiotic users and they have gone down like flys......crap!

Also, some fanciers inject against pmv from weaning.......this to me is not good. wait til your youngsters are strong.

notice how your BEST pigeons are NEVER ill!!

JMO

 

i would certainly agree with this post,, far to many propped up pigeons nowadays,, to me, we are fast ruining the hard constitution the pigeons had many years ago,, maybe would tend only to differ on vaccination,, although this has to be done,by law,,, i dont like it,, but as it has to be done,so would prefer to do it asap,,as this , really, [nowadays] has to be a " built in "part of their  there growing immune system, as prevention for pmv , but can fully understand the above post

 

 

[Guest]

Having considered why we have, over the past 20 years, seen an ever increasing pattern of young bird losses, It is becoming more apparent that one of the major factors for this could be due to the Radio Activity emitted by Mobile Phone Masts.

Some interesting reading:-

 

http://omega.twoday.net/stories/286416/

 

I don't for one minute conclude that this is the sole reason for losses of pigeons, but combined with increased BOP attacks and changes in weather patterns, it is not difficult to see why the Hobby/Sport is encountering an ever increasing up hill battle.

 

What are members thought?

Food for thought Bob.  http://www.mastsanity.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=275&Itemid=1

was a good read. If these magnetic fields affect humans as this study says then its sure as hell going to effect the pigeon.?  

 

[ch pied]

G.C.H.Q. CHELTENHAM . micro - wave communication's .

[Turk]

twenty years ago it was constant fly aways that fanciers suffered from with young birds,most top fanciers i used to read would put this down to over crowding illness in the flock ,systems move on darkness systems birds constantly medicated kept in the dark etc too many ill birds been sent .are these say darkness birds suffering from light blindness memory loss ,when fanciers fed there birds on the basics shall we say corn before the exploitation of the professional pigeon fancier came to the front with fantastic marketing tools of  fancy corns that make our birds fly like rockets but cannot find there way home ,

 

[jakjak]

twenty years ago it was constant fly aways that fanciers suffered from with young birds,most top fanciers i used to read would put this down to over crowding illness in the flock ,systems move on darkness systems birds constantly medicated kept in the dark etc too many ill birds been sent .are these say darkness birds suffering from light blindness memory loss ,when fanciers fed there birds on the basics shall we say corn before the exploitation of the professional pigeon fancier came to the front with fantastic marketing tools of  fancy corns that make our birds fly like rockets but cannot find there way home ,

 

food for thought....I always keep my youngsters.......they are naturals

the 1 year I tried darkness..........I lost the lot before the first race :-/

[Guest strapper]

i wish some would read up on medications...medications dont break down imune systems in pigeons...fanciers do!!...by using medications recklessly!....keep to the reccomended doses and your be ok.

medication is blamed for pigeons having diseases these days...what did you all blame diseases on in the old days?..there are many more diseases now but thats evolution.....just like all the new diseases that have come about in humans.

viruses mutate and form new diseases ,this will continue .

[Guest IB]

It's very easy to place blame without proof. Pigeons aren't the only creature to have homing ability, these must be exposed to these same radio waves, but there aren't many stories of them going astray as regularly as racing pigeons or in such large numbers. Personally, I doubt if there is a single reason for losses, more likely a mix of different things?

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

I think lack of training and poor management along with bop is the main problem for losses

[superstar]

I think lack of training and poor management along with bop is the main problem for losses

 

More to it than that thesedays, having experienced a shocker yesterday and all the pigeons that went in the crates were very well trained and in tip top condition, a percentage of them sent by other members had already had 2 races yet returns were less than 10% from 60 miles and it isn't as if they were "Micky" birds or fanciers sending them! Makes you wonder if it is all worth it at the end of the day

 

 

[Guest Freebird]

i wish some would read up on medications...medications dont break down imune systems in pigeons...fanciers do!!...by using medications recklessly!....keep to the reccomended doses and your be ok.

medication is blamed for pigeons having diseases these days...what did you all blame diseases on in the old days?..there are many more diseases now but thats evolution.....just like all the new diseases that have come about in humans.

viruses mutate and form new diseases ,this will continue .

Sorry but wrong. These new diseases are NEW and all down to over medication. People go to the doctor for the most simple of things nowadays and I think fanciers do the same with the birds. We will NEVER beat nature but nature will sort things out, NATURALY.

 

 

[THE FIFER]

if its radio waves etc, how does it not effect all our birds, I have a mobile mast near me in a field and there are loads of streeters always feeding in the field,  :-/  and they like all birds have homing instinct, how many masts do the swallows have to pass over on their way migrating back and forth,

[Guest Freebird]

Having considered why we have, over the past 20 years, seen an ever increasing pattern of young bird losses, It is becoming more apparent that one of the major factors for this could be due to the Radio Activity emitted by Mobile Phone Masts.

Some interesting reading:-

 

http://omega.twoday.net/stories/286416/

 

I don't for one minute conclude that this is the sole reason for losses of pigeons, but combined with increased BOP attacks and changes in weather patterns, it is not difficult to see why the Hobby/Sport is encountering an ever increasing up hill battle.

 

What are members thought?

What about swallows and geese, these birds cover more miles than a racer with no meds etc. The weak die and the fit survive. Maybe we should take a leaf out of mother natures book. You can only push a pigeon so far until something has to give. Maybe a sign to revert back to old ways but I know that will never happen ( too much money at stake I think )

 

 

[glenrandal]

all the problems with ybs  are down to one thing "look in the mirror".

[just ask me]

all the problems with ybs  are down to one thing "look in the mirror".

 

maybe a little harsh there  have seen some top lofts this year get Young bird sickness

 

im going to stick my head out a bit here we all had smashes throughout the years but if u look at who was winning 10 years ago or top fanicers that got back into the sport i don't think its any surprise its the same people that don't lose any pigeons and keep wining races

 

good pigeons good management and if u have the feeding anyway right u shouldn't lose birds

 

i have one young bird lofts capable of holding 40 young ones comerable i have at times put 50 young ones in it i end up losing 10 young ones or more if i put 40 young ones as i did for the last 3 year i think my young bird losses were no more than 5 for the whole young bird season and that with 90% or more racing the full young bird program i think last year it was 3 young ones lost