wnr fed @ newbury

[Guest tom123]

been advised good forcast for tomorrow (sun) should be away early fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

well done to our race advisory committee in re-arranging the basketing night for a sun race a lot were willing to condem your decitions last week in regards to losses

now its time to take a pat on the back

 

 

 

[phillips]

where at newbury today still waiting on word of lib is anybody else at newbury ?

[Guest tom123]

there are a few feds there ,you should be away around 2 oclock supposed to be clearing later on  BUT SLOWLLY!1

[phillips]

there are a few feds there ,you should be away around 2 oclock supposed to be clearing later on  BUT SLOWLLY!1

 

cheers mate

[Guest Owen]

Well Tom I admire your optimism. Time for pats on the back after the race. I hope the Officials have put the message over regarding the untrained and sick birds that are entered. I think we really have to crack down on birds with food in their crops. And while I'm at it, unstamped birds must be turned back. And that includes birds with unreadable stamps. Perhaps, if some of the culprits think they may have to send for their strays, they may try to do things in a better way.

Most of the Fanciers I have spoken to are pretty much nervious about what might happen. Let's hope it all goes well.

[Guest tom123]

its not about negitivity now we should be looking forward now and move on yes a sour taste was left and is was  expected but we can be banging  our heads over it

[phillips]

any word on what the weather is like at race point

cheers

jason

[PIGEON_MAN]

Well Tom I admire your optimism. Time for pats on the back after the race. I hope the Officials have put the message over regarding the untrained and sick birds that are entered. I think we really have to crack down on birds with food in their crops. And while I'm at it, unstamped birds must be turned back. And that includes birds with unreadable stamps. Perhaps, if some of the culprits think they may have to send for their strays, they may try to do things in a better way.

Most of the Fanciers I have spoken to are pretty much nervious about what might happen. Let's hope it all goes well.

 

I was amazed last week when it was said that birds that had food in their crops at basketing would be turned away surely you guys feed your birds on the day of basketing and there will be food in their crops still when taken to the club,I realise that birds with YBS retain food in their crops but not all birds basketed in this way will have YBS.

[phillips]

not looking good for a lib from newbury due to low cload and fine rain

[Guest tom123]

 

I was amazed last week when it was said that birds that had food in their crops at basketing would be turned away surely you guys feed your birds on the day of basketing and there will be food in their crops still when taken to the club,I realise that birds with YBS retain food in their crops but not all birds basketed in this way will have YBS.

 

i believe it is reflected on exces corn

like eveeryone else throughout the country yb sickness is ripe amoungst some and its a way of trying to deture vomiting in the baskets

[Guest strapper]

where at newbury today still waiting on word of lib is anybody else at newbury ?

 

jason they are,nt liberating today m8 they changed the day for tomorrow...basketing today ..saturday.

 

[Guest strapper]

been advised good forcast for tomorrow (sun) should be away early fingers crossed!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

well done to our race advisory committee in re-arranging the basketing night for a sun race a lot were willing to condem your decitions last week in regards to losses

now its time to take a pat on the back

 

 

 

 

yes tom your right, if we condem them when they mess up we should praise them when they get it right ..so well done ...i think more forsight is needed like this for the future.

 

 

[phillips]

 

jason they are,nt liberating today m8 they changed the day for tomorrow...basketing today ..saturday.

 

our birds are already there mate we basketed last night

[Guest strapper]

 

our birds are already there mate we basketed last night

 

ok jason m8... i thought u might have been in the line of flight(fed) thats y i thought u was askin

 

 

[latebird]

i refuse to send my young birds to races hungry, i fed mine at 10 so they should have some food left in them, if they are turnedaway so be it.

[holmsidelofts]

 

 

 

I was amazed last week when it was said that birds that had food in their crops at basketing would be turned away surely you guys feed your birds on the day of basketing and there will be food in their crops still when taken to the club,I realise that birds with YBS retain food in their crops but not all birds basketed in this way will have YBS.

 

Thats not what owen is getting at. Any bird has the potential to be a carrier of not just young bird sickness but of canker, worms, cocci etc. No bird should be allowed to be put into the basket with food in them as they WILL throw it up and you then have the issue that all the others in the basket will eat it passing on al-sorts of diseases. There is no need what so ever to feed birds later than midday on the day of basketing. I remove the food from my birds at 12 noon and they never have any corn in them. If everyone who sends the birds with corn in them stopped we would cut down the transmission of diseases a hell of a lot.

 

 

[gorsy bank lofts]

dont see why anyone would ship birds with corn in crop,will do them no good at all even if held over they are fed in basket so dont need it..

each to there own but if bird still had corn in its crop from lunch time on basket day it would not go.

would you work well on a full stomach????

 

:-/

[gorsy bank lofts]

burton&south derby no lib newbury,moved to marlborough because of horse racing from newbury tomorrow.

are wnr fed still going from newbury??????

[holmsidelofts]

Any news on that tom.

 

 

[PIGEON_MAN]

 

Thats not what owen is getting at. Any bird has the potential to be a carrier of not just young bird sickness but of canker, worms, cocci etc. No bird should be allowed to be put into the basket with food in them as they WILL throw it up and you then have the issue that all the others in the basket will eat it passing on al-sorts of diseases. There is no need what so ever to feed birds later than midday on the day of basketing. I remove the food from my birds at 12 noon and they never have any corn in them. If everyone who sends the birds with corn in them stopped we would cut down the transmission of diseases a hell of a lot.

 

I agree any bird COULD be a carrier but to turn birds away at basketing  because they have food in their crop must be wrong and I,m sure that the majority of members send them this way,I dont think any Union would uphold a clubs decision to turn away birds carrying food.

[Guest strapper]

untill there is a rule stating as such i dont think anyone has the right to turn any bird away..wether it be the right thing or not...if it was for health reasons then thats a different matter.

[pjc]

The only reasons birds should be turned away are No wing stamp/or telephone ring and clearly displaying illnes, i.e one eye cold etc etc.

Easiest way to prevent transmission via any food is to fit grilles to the race baskets/crates so any food brought up will not be accesible by others!

[thunderboult]

you people who say the birds should have no food in their crop on friday basketing are crazy, i feed my birds the same time every day and they're hungry when the food is due, so if they're fed friday morning,saturday morning they'll be hungry. if you don't lib until dinner time and they have a tough race a lot may go down(no fuel in the tank) or if some go missing because of clashing/hawks they won't have the energy to return(and you wonder why so many never work back) . also i think keeping them hungry like that, is more likely to bring on sickness.  

[rasbull]

I think as PJC says floor grilles will prevent any food being eaten by other pigeons and then fanciers who decide to feed on the day of basketing have the choice!

[Guest Owen]

Well lads, I have to say that I am disappointed in what you say. You know as well as I do that if birds are carrying food in their crops they will bring it up. You also know that if they bring it up the others will eat it.

In addition to the above you are well aware that young bird sickness is rife in a great many lofts. You also know that there are a lot of lofts who suffer with Paratyphoid. And canker, cocci and worms are common.

I have a microscope and I see an awful lot of this type of thing. And often, I see infections in birds from very dedicated Fanciers.

All I have pointed out is what I think is common sense. The Fanciers that have fed their birds have gained nothing because the birds sick it up. The Fanciers who have been responsible and not fed their birds have everything to loose.

And yes it would be a nice idea to fit mesh floors to the crates, but I can't see that being done. Can you?

In regard to the legalities of this, yes you are right, as yet we can not force the issue. But surely it would be worth all our whiles to try to eliminate a severe source of infection for our birds. Do you know, that we have not got to the stage where the crates are washed and distinfected after each use as yet. And how many Clubs use distinfectant in their drinkers?

Every year we are consigning large numbers of young pigeons to the roadsides and streets of our towns and cities. Then we complain about the losses. I am not saying that this one thing will eliminate the losses but it will at least make a positive contribution towards it.