welsh national f.c.

[Guest tom123]

the above organisation basket fri for a planned sat lib from maidstone

[Guest strapper]

the above organisation basket fri for a planned sat lib from maidstone

 

thanks tom m8 ill let the boys in the club know

 

 

[chichichi]

we are sending 3 to this race as we entered a breeder buyer and the club is in the wnr.. a couple of questions,,

 

1 - Is there a west section

2 - if not what section will we be in.. (swnsea Valley)

 

hope to have a good race..

 

best of luck to all sending

 

ant

[Guest strapper]

we are sending 3 to this race as we entered a breeder buyer and the club is in the wnr.. a couple of questions,,

 

1 - Is there a west section

2 - if not what section will we be in.. (swnsea Valley)

 

hope to have a good race..

 

best of luck to all sending

 

ant

 

hi ant m8..looks likely your in the west section m8...just looked at the map.

 

 

[chichichi]

Paul I heard the west section was abolished and we are in the same section as hirwaun.. there will only be about 2 to 5 sending from the west so makes sense to put us in the next section over.. but no worries what ever they do..

 

paul let me know what time they are coming to you.. we will have an idea of what time to expect them then,,

 

I will message you my number,, just text me or ring,,

 

ant

[Guest strapper]

Paul I heard the west section was abolished and we are in the same section as hirwaun.. there will only be about 2 to 5 sending from the west so makes sense to put us in the next section over.. but no worries what ever they do..

 

paul let me know what time they are coming to you.. we will have an idea of what time to expect them then,,

 

I will message you my number,, just text me or ring,,

 

ant

 

sent a pm ant m8  

 

 

[Guest tom123]

hi ant

the west section was brought in to encourage entries from the west and is still in force now

so the ansewer to your question is you and however many will be in the west section

 

i hope this covers all concerns

 

tom

[chichichi]

hi ant

the west section was brought in to encourage entries from the west and is still in force now

so the ansewer to your question is you and however many will be in the west section

 

i hope this covers all concerns

 

tom

 

Thanks tom,,

 

best of luck to all for the race,,

 

ant

 

 

[Guest Rhondda RedFox]

Hope you boys have a good race this week but racing from Maidstone into Wales on a Sat seems like suicide to me.  I will be sitting this one out.   All the best Rob.

[chichichi]

Hope you boys have a good race this week but racing from Maidstone into Wales on a Sat seems like suicide to me.  I will be sitting this one out.   All the best Rob.

 

rob this will be our only race with the national as we bought birds in a breeder buyer,, but we are hoping for a good race,, these birds had chale the isle of wight last week and came well.. so fingers crossed..

 

lets hope for a clear run through

 

ant

[Guest Rhondda RedFox]

Hi Ant,

 

I am sure you are as aware as I am that when ever we have liberated YB's in Maidstone on a Sat it has not been a good race.  Last year we liberated on a Sunday and it was the best race from Maidstone I can ever remember and the weather at our end was rubbish.  I was hoping that the WNR were going to continue Sat basketing for Sunday racing as I would have liked to have sent but as we are racing from Maidstone 2 weeks Sunday I will keep them until then.

 

I hope it turns out well though.

 

Rob.

[holmsidelofts]

Hi guys,

Good luck for the maidstone race.

As promised a map of the liberation's due to take place on saturday, im glad im not sending with all thats going on.

 

All the best though to everyone racing i really hope you have a decent race this week as we need it.

 

jas

 

 

[RICKY]

WHERE DID U GET UR MAP AND POINT OF LIB FROM...

[Guest Owen]

Well, looking at the map, I would'nt want the job of working out how to liberate pigeons to give us all a good race. I would bet that, although Jas has done a good job to show what we are up against, there will be Feds nor accounted for and not shown on the map. So what we are looking at is a best case scenario. Add into this, the effects of weather and reduced windows of opportunity because of it, and the picture looks bleak for our birds.

As has been said before this, it is no wonder that we loose young pigeons when you see a maze like that.

I think it is time we changed the route to one that gives our birds a proper chance of getting home.

[Guest tom123]

but what your all missing is the piont that its been like this with organisations crossing for many years but only this year have we lost so many ? so is it clashing

[PIGEON_MAN]

Welsh National F.C. Not even mentioned in the BHW as being at Maidstone sounds like another problem if other feds dont even know your there.

[Guest tom123]

no once again it is a reviesed programme liberating with the welsh north rd fed

[PIGEON_MAN]

no once again it is a reviesed programme liberating with the welsh north rd fed

 

Surely to help everyone out a revised race programme could have been sent to the RPRA for it to be included in the BHW.

[Guest strapper]

i hope this wind dies down....its terrible here.

[Guest Owen]

Tom

I don't know if it is clashing. And yes, you are right when you say that we have flown this route for years. Myself and others have been asking for an investigation into why we are loosing so many birds over the last few years. Everybody and his dog knows, and yet nothing has been done. We're are being ignored. I think you can take it as red that if this weeks race turns into another disaster, there will be even more very unhappy bunnies out there. I think the Officials are hoping that people like me will shut up and go away if they ignore us for long enough. I will not be going anywhere until I am satisfied that we are giving our pigeons a fair chance to return home. Count on it.

[kevgrind]

I think the wind is a major factor if it stays like this, i see the best day is Saturday for the weather this weekend so it looks to be the right day afterall, i wonder if these Sunday Libs will bring it forward incase of a holdover????

[Guest tom123]

how can officails ignore something they know nothing about this isnt the place to alter or dissscuss things of concern or greiviences

 

do things the right way has you are aware of

 

letter to club and  club letter to fed

 

then theres no come back

 

[holmsidelofts]

but what your all missing is the piont that its been like this with organisations crossing for many years but only this year have we lost so many ? so is it clashing

 

Sorry tom it hasnt just been this year its been for at least 4 years now that people are being wiped out with heavy losses, remember i have been with the welsh north road before they went east to west and its gotton progressively worse every year, its impossible to avoid clashing on this road. As someone else said earlier about the wrong information in the homing world, yes its a revised wnr programme but we have know this for weeks, but every time its printed in the homing world the the information is wrong so how can all the feds around us know where we are if we dont make an effort to tell them. It only takes a phone call or an email to the BHW for them to change the information, but again as far as others are concerned we are at swindon this week not maidstone.

Its time we stopped looking for excuses and we need to do something about it before its to late.

Other feds are really starting to get pissed at us as we are causing lossages for them also by flying this route, i know this because i have had lots of emails from people in other feds wanting answers.

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

WHERE DID U GET UR MAP AND POINT OF LIB FROM...

 

Map is from google maps, the lib points are taken from the BHW lib info at the back. I know this isnt 100% accurate as some feds have altered there program but it highlights the real issue we have. The liberation sites have also been crossed ref with the rpra website, they have lists of liberation sites etc on there website.

 

 

[Guest tom123]

yes but not only our race pionts are wrong so are others