levi Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 Hi all i am just starting out and was wondering whats best to start with young birds or stock ,if anyone can help.thanks
b.massey Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 I think you should try get youngsters to start off. Then build team from there, Having stock(prisoners) is not ideal and def not to a new start
pjc Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 if you are just starting there will be plenty of latebreds available shortly which will make ideal stock that you can fly out. If you have room for a seperate stock loft then keep an eye out for oldbirds but personaly if starting again or for the first time i'd go for latebreds.
levi Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Posted June 7, 2009 Thanks lads ,what size loft should i be looking at
b.massey Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 Depends on your budget and how many your aiming for. I started with an 8ft x 8ft hut with two sections. Would always advise on having two sections as always best to split cocks from hens over late Autumn and early winter
Guest Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 The larger the better but DONT be tempted to overcrowd it. fewer birds in a loft is one of the keys to better health of the birds, A good size would be about 16 x 8 or 16 x 6
levi Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Posted June 7, 2009 Im from benfleet,essex. i have space for a 14 x 6 loft
Guest Owen Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 The only stock birds that are worth the space are birds with wins behind them. You would be surprised at the number of people who will try to convince you that non-winners will breed you the goods. Just laugh and walk away. If I were you, I would go for young birds. Train them well, really well, and let them show you their quality on the road. Dump the slow ones and the night outers, and concentrate on the ones that are genuine. If you really want stock pigeons, wait until the Sales in the Autumn and go to Entire Clearance Sales. That way you can buy the birds that have proven themselves on the road. A good strategy is to buy Hens that have bred more than one winner with differant Cocks. They are hard to find but they are worth their weight in gold.
levi Posted June 7, 2009 Author Report Posted June 7, 2009 Thanks for your advice lads ,how many birds would be ok in that size loft
b.massey Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 8 pair 1 section and 30 YB in the other. Or 30 and 30 if its just perches you put in?? I would have 8 nest boxes one side and 30 box perches the other
jimmy white Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 Hi all i am just starting out and was wondering whats best to start with young birds or stock ,if anyone can help.thanks in my opnion levi,, i would try to get yb,s now , if at all poss, these can be trained this year , and quite able to race next year as yearlings, also breed you next years yb,s , you may be able to get these quite easy as most members have their young racers allmost training now,, and might just give you good birds ,bred that wee bitty later, that might just miss the yb racing , [age wise] maybe one tip is make sure your loft is well ventilated and not overcrowded,, best of luck,,
Guest bigda Posted June 7, 2009 Report Posted June 7, 2009 Hi all i am just starting out and was wondering whats best to start with young birds or stock ,if anyone can help.thanks all depends on what you want to do you cold buy some bird in now might be a bit late to get them ready for racing,young bird racing, if you go to the sales in the winter time with a fancier he might pick out some birds for you, to breed of but if i was you i would save up my money just now and loook out for name called louella pigeon world, and buy in 20, get another ten at the same time of friends and race them next year it might seem dear but its the quickest way a new fancier could go, as you could get one or two good birds from friends or louella that way you dont need to worry about breeding birds as that has its own worry and you will save on feeding them hope this helps you mate
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