DOVEScot Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 wouldnt touch it to much rats and mice about doing there buisness over it Any grain that is taken from a field is at risk of rodents etc being in contact with it and in storage areas as well. You get them caught in the combines and the threshers when you are harvesting. Pre harvest you want to see the rats that come out them when you fire them up :-/
frank-123 Posted January 5, 2010 Report Posted January 5, 2010 50-50 for me and the droppings are great just wish i could scrape them there frozen to the floor ;D
gulkie Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 i would never dream of using a 100% barley,i do use it but at50%it has to be bold and malting barley for brewing,i do beleive it is grossly underestimated.my mix is 50% barley 25%depuritive 25%breed & wean, graduly adding more b&w to pairing up, my birds are looking & handling brill.
Guest stevie-b Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 same money buying cheap corn from farms and spend a fortune on medicines to get them right
holmsidelofts Posted January 6, 2010 Report Posted January 6, 2010 For me british crops contain to much water, I've feed farm barley and wheat in the past once, never again for me im afraid, you get what you pay for. Im a big fan of barley and i do feed malted barley but this is very high quality grain meant for human consumption and expensive at £35 a bag but is fantastic and the birds love it. So for me it would always be belgium or dutch grain for me other than the malted barley which is british but the quality is very good.
Skull Lofts Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 For me british crops contain to much water, I've feed farm barley and wheat in the past once, never again for me im afraid, you get what you pay for. Im a big fan of barley and i do feed malted barley but this is very high quality grain meant for human consumption and expensive at £35 a bag but is fantastic and the birds love it. So for me it would always be belgium or dutch grain for me other than the malted barley which is british but the quality is very good. Hi What is malted barley? Skull
holmsidelofts Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Hi What is malted barley? Skull Malted barley is what is used to make beer and larger. It barley that is sprayed and then quickly dried the process turns the starch in the barley to sugar providing a lot more energy from the grain. test were carried out on tipplers who where fed on normal barley then fed on malted barley and they flew for up to 2hrs more than fed on normal barley. if you taste malted barley its tastes sweet with a malty taste. The birds prefer it over normal barley and as it is meant for human consumption the grain quality is higher. you have to get it from a beer specialist.
Skull Lofts Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 Malted barley is what is used to make beer and larger. It barley that is sprayed and then quickly dried the process turns the starch in the barley to sugar providing a lot more energy from the grain. test were carried out on tipplers who where fed on normal barley then fed on malted barley and they flew for up to 2hrs more than fed on normal barley. if you taste malted barley its tastes sweet with a malty taste. The birds prefer it over normal barley and as it is meant for human consumption the grain quality is higher. you have to get it from a beer specialist. Thanks for your reply! Skull
ch pied Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 i prefare barley that has been air dried , iam not a fan of the barley that has been prop corned / sprayed with proponic acid to dry it quick,,, all verieties of barley can be malted
kev43 Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 my birds has been on barley 60 percent barley and 40 percent all rounder and they are a fine wieght ready ;)for pairing exactly same as mine and paired up on sunday no bother at all apart from 1 pair
sox Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 ive been feeding mine barly and weat fromthe farm and theres no problem paired them up had eggs 8-9 days a suppose it depends where you buy it from
Guest Owen Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 ch pied you are both right and wrong. All healthy grain will sprout and therefore can, in theory, be made into beer or lager. But certain varieties of barley have been bred for the purpose of malting and others have been bred for feeding. So obviously you can use the malting varieties for feeding. My opinion is that, as barley is one of the most important animal feeds used by man, it has been bred for it's feeding qualities. The best feeding barley is wonderfully efficient at putting finish (fat) onto animals. So after using it for years to fatten farm animals I am a great fan of it's qualities. So in essence, I think that malting barley is best for beer and lager, while the feed grade barley is best for feeding. The barley specifically bred for bread making is pretty good feeding grain to. Jason will probably disagree but we have been having this differance of opinion for quite some time now.
ch pied Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 ch pied you are both right and wrong. All healthy grain will sprout and therefore can, in theory, be made into beer or lager. But certain varieties of barley have been bred for the purpose of malting and others have been bred for feeding. So obviously you can use the malting varieties for feeding. My opinion is that, as barley is one of the most important animal feeds used by man, it has been bred for it's feeding qualities. The best feeding barley is wonderfully efficient at putting finish (fat) onto animals. So after using it for years to fatten farm animals I am a great fan of it's qualities. So in essence, I think that malting barley is best for beer and lager, while the feed grade barley is best for feeding. The barley specifically bred for bread making is pretty good feeding grain to. Jason will probably disagree but we have been having this differance of opinion for quite some time now. your are correct , the ( saffron ) i like the most .
dwh Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 barley has a high carb % so why not use it as part of your feeding regime to me its not the that they lose weight on it they just pprefer to eat other grains and like owen writes its used as a feed for fattening changing way we feed ouur racing hens this year and this entails using barley gotta try something to beat the big boys
mark Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 One has to be careful here regards wieght etc. I like wheat mixed with barley. A little linseed every other day first. This weather one really should also be ading a little high carbs for heating them up and combatting the cold. Now if the birds lack, as barley has some propeties lacking, specially in quantity, they will oer eat / gorge themselves on it given the chance. One needs to look at the Grain tables to see what they entail like. fair point roland, how many birds that sit around the town centres get the above none but you dont see many of them dead no matter how cold it is.
dwh Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 fair point roland, how many birds that sit around the town centres get the above none but you dont see many of them dead no matter how cold it is. how can you compare a racing pigeon and a town topper we trying to produce a winning athlete not something that survives on scraps and get a good look around roofs and old buildings you'll find plenty lets face we ain't actually looking 4 them :-/
sox Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 as i mentioned it on a previous post staff van reet used to leave barly down for the birds 24/7 except fridays the birds were never hungry and who flew better than him at sprint racing !
dwh Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 as i mentioned it on a previous post staff van reet used to leave barly down for the birds 24/7 except fridays the birds were never hungry and who flew better than him at sprint racing ! good point sox barley is agood guide they won't over eat on it only wjen they hungry so if its in front of them after they been givn wat you want them to have you know they not going to overeat
ch pied Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 good point sox barley is agood guide they won't over eat on it only wjen they hungry so if its in front of them after they been givn wat you want them to have you know they not going to overeatyour wright , 2 hopper's , 1 with bean's , 1 with barley , the bird's will regulate their intake , just leave them to it .
dwh Posted January 7, 2010 Report Posted January 7, 2010 your wright , 2 hopper's , 1 with bean's , 1 with barley , the bird's will regulate their intake , just leave them to it . WILL SWOP BARLEY 4 BEANS NEARER TO CHANNEL :
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