maize when breeding

[adam owen]

i agree  not all thease mixes are all wat they are made out to be they cnt argue with a pigeon if they wont eat it they dnt need it surely the bird wins this one ;D ;D ;D

[Guest stb-]

 

WELL STB THERE WAISTING OUR TIME.....WHAT YOU THINK M8 BLOODY RUBISH  :-/

 

Would agree , a lot are not what they are cracked up to be   ;)

[nogin]

 

Would agree , a lot are not what they are cracked up to be   ;)

 

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ME LIKE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN  ;D ;D ;D THEN THERES NO WAIST M8

[Guest stb-]

 

8) 8) 8) 8) 8) ME LIKE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN  ;D ;D ;D THEN THERES NO WAIST M8

 

YIP NO WASTE AND TOP CLASS YOUNG BIRDS , AND SAVES A RIGHT FEW £££££ ;)

[adam owen]

wat would u put in your own mix then ????

[Guest stb-]

wat would u put in your own mix then ????

 

Quoted from adam owen

do u buy a mix or make ya own

 

 

fOR BREEDING I MAKE MY OWN ,  1 bag beans 1 bag barley 1 bag poultry rearars

 

pellets fresh grit an kirkpatricks black minerals .  and clean water .

 

Have found this to rear the best young birds over the last 35 years.

[nogin]

wat would u put in your own mix then ????

 

BEANS MAPLES TARES [2% MAZE ]CHICKEN PELLETS SMALL AMOUNT OF SEED ...BINGO  

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

beyers vanrobeys and natrual but the bread and wean has no white yellow or green peas only maples strange one

 

Got a few grain merchants brochures while down at blackpool inc Versle Laga where in the brochure they have a special section for UK market mixtures, most of these mixtures have between 25 to 35% Maple peas where as the Foriegn countrys only use 7% Maples??? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

 

[adam owen]

i was told not to use brown grains eg beans  maples ect asked whu and its something to do with poisens in them it damages liver ect :-/ :-/ :-/

[Guest frank dooman]

SO WHY IS THERE SO MUCH MAZE IN THE BREEDING MIXES, WHEN THE BIRDS JUST WAIST IT ?????????? :-/

 

if theres maize its not a breeding mix they dont have any in it

[Guest IB]

Bucktons breeders has maize in it. Don't know about other breeding mixes, but I do know that mine leave maize and other stuff in it when they are feeding youngsters. Inclined to think much same way as Blaz that maize's shape can't be too easy to get back up, but you read in BHW and elsewhere, e.g. Vet's Tips, parents are said to know that it is an inferior grain for raising youngsters, and yes, inclined to think that too, otherwise they'd be eating it and feeding it.

 

Note what is said about pulses, brown-skinned grain, but the only warning I have ever seen published is on the amount of maples fed, by Gordon Chalmers, who has it from a nutritionist friend that maples contains harmful substances that will disrupt bird's digestion if fed too much. I think that could be said about almost anything though, if there is too much of it?

 

I am mixing my own this year. Fed up with waste. Base will still be a commercial mixture though, beans, maples & tares, Bucktons Hi Speed, with additional straights added, depending on what the birds are doing, e.g. maize for additional carbs when the birds are racing.

 

 

[holmsidelofts]

It depends on how you feed them. If birds have corn in front of them all the time then they will choose what they want, If you feed small amounts on a regular basis they tend to eat everything including maize. I used to hopper feed my stockbirds, i had grid floors in there. after 6 months i took the grids up to clean out and probably had 2 - 3 20kg bags of corn on the floor. they will always go with what they like. I stopped hopper feeding, feed more regular and never had an issue.

 

 

[blackdog]

It depends on how you feed them. If birds have corn in front of them all the time then they will choose what they want, If you feed small amounts on a regular basis they tend to eat everything including maize. I used to hopper feed my stockbirds, i had grid floors in there. after 6 months i took the grids up to clean out and probably had 2 - 3 20kg bags of corn on the floor. they will always go with what they like. I stopped hopper feeding, feed more regular and never had an issue.

 

 

same here mate, fed 3 to 4 times a day when breeding they eat everything in front of them including maze

 

 

[Novice]

 

Got a few grain merchants brochures while down at blackpool inc Versle Laga where in the brochure they have a special section for UK market mixtures, most of these mixtures have between 25 to 35% Maple peas where as the Foriegn countrys only use 7% Maples??? :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/

 

This agrees with my perception.

I have always wondered why this is.

Do we require higher protein mixes because of the climate or is this just a notion the UK fancier has in his head?

 

 

[dwh]

;D ;D ;D

 

Neither do i  but think some maize is cheaper then the maple peas etc maybe thats why they add it .

 

I certainly know that when mine rear young birds they go for the protein first and aint much interested in maize

agree with you on that one