wet droppings

[thomasd]

i cleaned out my loft today when i was sraping the droping on floor it was very wet under neef and the same on thier boxes is this cause of the wet and cold weather ive just finsh and 7 day course of cocci i use white lime for the loft floor  

[thomasd]

???

[mark proctor]

hi m8..dont worry to much as yet...it could be any thing...cat in the night,,,fox maybe...change of food..change of weather...i had it the other day but there ok now...only if it carries on then send there droppings of to a vet,,,,always look into it first before reaching for the medicine cabinet...cheers mark....

[Little Bird]

How are the birds looking ?

 

and well said Mark, .....i could'nt agree more

[thomasd]

all my birds r in good health in my eyes just the wet dropping was worrying me i just treated them for cocci and canker now and again just to keep the level down that was the first time since the end of racing season i always use garlic in the water and cider

[Little Bird]

Well if they look ok it could be the weather. If it continues i would send a sample off for testing.

[thomasd]

is thier anything i can give them just to dry they droppings

[nogin]

is thier anything i can give them just to dry they droppings

 

AYE BISTO   ;D

[Guest strapper]

i cleaned out my loft today when i was sraping the droping on floor it was very wet under neef and the same on thier boxes is this cause of the wet and cold weather ive just finsh and 7 day course of cocci i use white lime for the loft floor  

 

its colder weather now and theres little chance of the weather making your loft warm so anything that wasnt being wet in the summer will now seem a lot wetter...on the other hand..you could get them checked out...condition on the outside doesnt always mean good on the inside...like the saying dont judge a book by its cover

[Guest shadow]

is thier anything i can give them just to dry they droppings

 

beans

 

 

[blackdog]

all my birds r in good health in my eyes just the wet dropping was worrying me i just treated them for cocci and canker now and again just to keep the level down that was the first time since the end of racing season i always use garlic in the water and cider

 

hi thomasd mate, after you finished them on antibiotics did you follow up with a good probiotic for 2 or 3 days, if not i would to put some goodness back into the birds mate, if you have and there no better in a couple of days i would get them tested as it could possably be the start of something else mate, (hope not).

 

 

 

[thomasd]

the dropping r good well they look good its under neef the dropping may b cause its cold i was thinking of putting sand on the floor

[wilkins]

is the base of the loft high off the floor to allow air to get under it

[Guest slugmonkey]

PROBIOTICS I use these to keep droppings tight

[thomasd]

where do i get that PROBIOTICS

 

the floor in my shed is chip board floor its crap i have the shed 3 blocks of the ground

[blackdog]

try this mate

 

http://pigeons.taylorschoice.co.uk/categories/pigeon_supplements.php?startpos=16

[dwh]

try cider vin. or lemom juice in water for 3 days

[Guest Owen]

thomasd

I can not see why you would treat your birds for anything unless you know that they have a disease problem. It is always best to have the birds droppings checked under a microscope before you treat them. When you say that you have wet droppings, it could literally be anything. You could have anything from the start of paratyphoid or paramixovirus to a night fright. No advice from this Forum can possibly be of value, because there is not enough information to go on. Playing at guess the the sickness is asking for trouble. You could be wasting valuable time if there is a serious disease problem about to decend on you.

As you have been told, beans will always tighten droppings and so will clay blocks. But, you should not waste time nattering. Get the birds checked by a competent person. And stop treating your birds for phantom diseases.

[kev43]

thomasd

I can not see why you would treat your birds for anything unless you know that they have a disease problem. It is always best to have the birds droppings checked under a microscope before you treat them. When you say that you have wet droppings, it could literally be anything. You could have anything from the start of paratyphoid or paramixovirus to a night fright. No advice from this Forum can possibly be of value, because there is not enough information to go on. Playing at guess the the sickness is asking for trouble. You could be wasting valuable time if there is a serious disease problem about to decend on you.

As you have been told, beans will always tighten droppings and so will clay blocks. But, you should not waste time nattering. Get the birds checked by a competent person. And stop treating your birds for phantom diseases.

 

i totally agree owen no direspect 2 any other member either,, i have just referred a new starter 2 u wi a problem as he needs help ,,i told him 2 pm u hope u dont mind m8

[Guest Owen]

kev43

I hope I can help.

[Guest frank dooman]

is thier anything i can give them just to dry they droppings

 

origo-stim

[NW USA]

Give them some electrolytes in the water.

[Guest strapper]

 

i totally agree owen no direspect 2 any other member either,, i have just referred a new starter 2 u wi a problem as he needs help ,,i told him 2 pm u hope u dont mind m8

 

if you read my post you would see i did say get them checked out ...and didnt offer any treatment advice

half the problems with wet droppings around now is down to weather conditions and not having warm conditions.

also not cleaning out enough and wetness from droppings building up.

[Guest Owen]

Paul

I am not trying to be critical of anyone trying their best to help someone with a problem. In fact it is a damn nice thing to do. But you know as well as I do that there is a lot of serious disease problems out there. And you must agree, that even when you can get hold of the bird, you can not always workout exactly what is wrong. So, to me, it is criminal to mislead people into thinking, even with our experience, that we can make an accurate diagnosis without checking the bird properly.

I agree with you when you say that the weather, the loft or the food can cause problems. But you must agree that in these days or serious bacterial infections and the upsurge of problems with paramixo we ought not take the chance of giving the wrong advice.

Besides, I am trying to argue against blind treatments. I don't think that everyone realises that these medications can do a lot of harm. That applies to humans as well as our birds. I hope we can agree to encourage new people to the sport to work towards getting their birds into the best of health rather than ruin them by giving them strong medication without good cause. In any case most birds that need medication would be better off disposed of. In this sport it is all about the best of the best. No-one can manufacture the hard fittness necessary for a bird to be a consistant winner.

best regards

Owen

[Guest strapper]

Paul

I am not trying to be critical of anyone trying their best to help someone with a problem. In fact it is a damn nice thing to do. But you know as well as I do that there is a lot of serious disease problems out there. And you must agree, that even when you can get hold of the bird, you can not always workout exactly what is wrong. So, to me, it is criminal to mislead people into thinking, even with our experience, that we can make an accurate diagnosis without checking the bird properly.

I agree with you when you say that the weather, the loft or the food can cause problems. But you must agree that in these days or serious bacterial infections and the upsurge of problems with paramixo we ought not take the chance of giving the wrong advice.

Besides, I am trying to argue against blind treatments. I don't think that everyone realises that these medications can do a lot of harm. That applies to humans as well as our birds. I hope we can agree to encourage new people to the sport to work towards getting their birds into the best of health rather than ruin them by giving them strong medication without good cause. In any case most birds that need medication would be better off disposed of. In this sport it is all about the best of the best. No-one can manufacture the hard fittness necessary for a bird to be a consistant winner.

best regards

Owen

 

hi owen m8 totally agree with everything youve just said ..i wasnt aiming anything towards your post if it seemed i was,i was just pointing out to kev43 i already had stated get them checked out

i know owen that you are right in what you say.

i think it would be a good thing for fanciers to gain a little knowledge about illnesses and then they would spot potential illnesses on the way and get to the vet asap , instead of hoping that a magic asprin will sort it.

i know any advice you give will be of value to the person recieving it

al the best paul