PEREGRINE WEB CAM

[dazza]

Goshawk - please note the spelling of GRAMMAR!!!!!!!!!!!! cocky t**t

[Guest numpty01]

i must say this mickyb a true falconer would not ask as they all ready know the effect preditors have on our birds christ theres two in the village here one is in our club flys gosshawk he will tell you not you tell him the rspb behind the curtains on true num and the motives behind there protection of perigrin

[blaz]

 

And pigeon fanciers are'nt single minded

 

In my experience Chris, falconers are not much different to pigeon folk. They look after their birds well as most of us do, sometimes even better. I think you'll find most of those webcam hits are not from these but the ordinary joe public who believe the hype of the RSPB, and those that think its some sort of great conservation project and champion the cause, how wrong they are.

 

Also its not them who are trying to fight the RSPB policys, so why should they have to thik about their profile. Falconers are not all RSPB supporters, remember one of the bggest threats to these BOP is egg/young stealing for personal use.

 

we train to race for  fun falconers train  birds to kill for fun not much difference in that.or am i looking through rose tinted glasses

 

[goshawk]

 

And pigeon fanciers are'nt single minded

 

In my experience Chris, falconers are not much different to pigeon folk. They look after their birds well as most of us do, sometimes even better. I think you'll find most of those webcam hits are not from these but the ordinary joe public who believe the hype of the RSPB, and those that think its some sort of great conservation project and champion the cause, how wrong they are.

 

Also its not them who are trying to fight the RSPB policys, so why should they have to thik about their profile. Falconers are not all RSPB supporters, remember one of the bggest threats to these BOP is egg/young stealing for personal use.

 

 

thanks mickb i think most falconers feel the same as you lot about the rspb, a usless charity just in it for the money. i know they do some good but i think like alot of charitys there bend the truth, the thing is its joe public who pays there wages.

and no i would use a pigeon for my hawk, one its against the law and two im good enough at reading and serving my bird the right quarry to keep him hunting. i also release gray partridge with are on decline through habitant lost through modern day farming. so i try and put back what i have tacken, infact i put in more than i have tacken.

i think ill find a better pigeon fancyer sight and maybe ill change the names as it was abit ill thought out.

atb lee

 

[Guest]

we train to race for  fun falconers train  birds to kill for fun not much difference in that.or am i looking through rose tinted glasses

 

But do falconers let their birds face the perils as we do? Lets face it, like it or lump it, fanciers are the biggest hypocrites, we moan about the losses to our birds thru BOP, as well as other things, but we still keep sending them to face their peril, all for the sake of a win and a gloat, and maybe a few quid and a photo! Is that for fun?

 

 

[SakerSam]

mickb, the simple answer is yes. i know of a local falconer that has had 3 falcons taken and killed to one pair of Peres.

 

I too have had 3 of my Falcons and Hawks 'attacked' by both Peregrine on a number of occaisions and a Spar had a go at my Harris hawk but the Spar being 1/3rd of the size came off worse.

 

You guys will like this...................................a peregrine attacks as you know from above, my falcon being a desert bird stoop low and close to the ground then comes up under its prey.

 

[Guest]

Sakersam, not heard of birds being taken, even less reason to be RSPB supporters then! My cousin has falcons/hawks (he well known you might know him Oxford way), and i know a few have rattled his and come off worse for it.

 

Nice video, well done filming it, i tried here but could'nt keep up with the bloody thing!!

[SakerSam]

Beleive me, 99% of falconers are as much against the RSPB, RSPCA etc. as you guys. Bill Odie the other year made a comment about falconers being responsible for taking young raptors and eggs but was made to appologise.

The RSPB like to say that Peregrines are worth thousands of pounds and that is why falconers take them. Bollo*, a captive bred tiercel will go from about £500 and a female upto £1000. A bird which has to be registered is no good to us with no paperwork or breeders ring on. Most captive bred birds have been DNA tested for bloodlines so it will be the mis-guided that chance stealing and raising a chick.

 

Sakersam, not heard of birds being taken, even less reason to be RSPB supporters then! My cousin has falcons/hawks (he well known you might know him Oxford way), and i know a few have rattled his and come off worse for it.

 

Nice video, well done filming it, i tried here but could'nt keep up with the bloody thing!!

 

 

[Guest]

Beleive me, 99% of falconers are as much against the RSPB, RSPCA etc. as you guys. Bill Odie the other year made a comment about falconers being responsible for taking young raptors and eggs but was made to appologise.

The RSPB like to say that Peregrines are worth thousands of pounds and that is why falconers take them. Bollo*, a captive bred tiercel will go from about £500 and a female upto £1000. A bird which has to be registered is no good to us with no paperwork or breeders ring on. Most captive bred birds have been DNA tested for bloodlines so it will be the mis-guided that chance stealing and raising a chick.

 

Cheers for info mate, that may surprise a few on here!

 

 

[gooner]

Sometimes fanciers wonder why they are not taken seriously, i wonder why. A self confessed lover of BOP comes on here to ask questions to find out more about our problems with raptors. So rather than try and win him over with a factual based argument, we all behave like soccer louts or school yard bullies and hurl abuse. I know he has reacted too, but so would i.

 

So in terms of soccer Falcons 1 Pigeons 0, keep up the good work lads.

 

well said

[Peregrine3]

Beleive me, 99% of falconers are as much against the RSPB, RSPCA etc. as you guys. Bill Odie the other year made a comment about falconers being responsible for taking young raptors and eggs but was made to appologise.

The RSPB like to say that Peregrines are worth thousands of pounds and that is why falconers take them. Bollo*, a captive bred tiercel will go from about £500 and a female upto £1000. A bird which has to be registered is no good to us with no paperwork or breeders ring on. Most captive bred birds have been DNA tested for bloodlines so it will be the mis-guided that chance stealing and raising a chick.

 

 

 

 

Well said. Spot on.

 

Mickb i have alot of respect for your posts. It's good to see at least someone is representing your sport responsibly.

Threatning people is needless, and primitive.

 

You send your birds out at their own risk.

Just as falconers do.

Sheep fencing, electrical boxes, and ignorant gun owners kill UK falconers BOP's all the time.

In other countries, particularly the USA, eagles frequently kill falconers birds.

Its no different to your Pigeons. They still send them out knowing the risk.

 

The fact your birds are killed is your fault. As they are your responsibility.

You take pride in your birds welfare, just as falconers do.

We dont want to see your racers taken by wild Peregrines, but its a fact of life that they are,

that will never change.

 

Acting your anger out on wild peregrines will cause nothing but repercussions.

Whilst it continues, the legitimacy of your cause will always be reduced to you being just a bunch of 'angry little pigeon men'.

 

 

 

 

[flyingteessider]

What are you saying angry little pigeon me us bring little because we keep pigeons and you being the almighty because your representing a falcon get real id kill them all

[Guest chrisss]

 

Well said. Spot on.

 

Mickb i have alot of respect for your posts. It's good to see at least someone is representing your sport responsibly.

Threatning people is needless, and primitive.

 

You send your birds out at their own risk.

Just as falconers do.

Sheep fencing, electrical boxes, and ignorant gun owners kill UK falconers BOP's all the time.

In other countries, particularly the USA, eagles frequently kill falconers birds.

Its no different to your Pigeons. They still send them out knowing the risk.

 

The fact your birds are killed is your fault. As they are your responsibility.

You take pride in your birds welfare, just as falconers do.

We dont want to see your racers taken by wild Peregrines, but its a fact of life that they are,

that will never change.

 

Acting your anger out on wild peregrines will cause nothing but repercussions.

Whilst it continues, the legitimacy of your cause will always be reduced to you being just a bunch of 'angry little pigeon men'.

 

 

 

 

interesting post this one at last the truth is been produced i assume that you are from the rspb?,it is not my fault if my birds are killed by hawk loving bacteria like you,if my bird are killed by a wild peregrine then in theory thats natures way,but to have them killed by a hawk planted by the likes of you to raise more money for the rspb makes me sick

[Guest]

Is the eagel owl still in bristol :-/ or have the RSPB killed this one as well .

[Guest numpty01]

like everything chris the talk is good untill its time to walk then everyone runs ???inthe opersit direction

[Guest numpty01]

 

Well said. Spot on.

 

Mickb i have alot of respect for your posts. It's good to see at least someone is representing your sport responsibly.

Threatning people is needless, and primitive.

 

You send your birds out at their own risk.

Just as falconers do.

Sheep fencing, electrical boxes, and ignorant gun owners kill UK falconers BOP's all the time.

In other countries, particularly the USA, eagles frequently kill falconers birds.

Its no different to your Pigeons. They still send them out knowing the risk.

 

The fact your birds are killed is your fault. As they are your responsibility.

You take pride in your birds welfare, just as falconers do.

We dont want to see your racers taken by wild Peregrines, but its a fact of life that they are,

that will never change.

 

Acting your anger out on wild peregrines will cause nothing but repercussions.

Whilst it continues, the legitimacy of your cause will always be reduced to you being just a bunch of 'angry little pigeon men'.

 

 

 

this poster is as far from rspb as im married to the queen ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Deven his birds cant fly straight

 

 

[les]

 

Well said. Spot on.

 

Mickb i have alot of respect for your posts. It's good to see at least someone is representing your sport responsibly.

Threatning people is needless, and primitive.

 

You send your birds out at their own risk.

Just as falconers do.

Sheep fencing, electrical boxes, and ignorant gun owners kill UK falconers BOP's all the time.

In other countries, particularly the USA, eagles frequently kill falconers birds.

Its no different to your Pigeons. They still send them out knowing the risk.

 

The fact your birds are killed is your fault. As they are your responsibility.

You take pride in your birds welfare, just as falconers do.

We dont want to see your racers taken by wild Peregrines, but its a fact of life that they are,

that will never change.

 

Acting your anger out on wild peregrines will cause nothing but repercussions.

Whilst it continues, the legitimacy of your cause will always be reduced to you being just a bunch of 'angry little pigeon men'.

 

 

 

another fact of life is I  protect what belongs to me ,repercussions ,bring them on ,they can be dealt with one way or another ,*expletive removed* the laws of this country ,they are only made to keep us quiet so the rich can get richer with out to many come backs .look around and see it all coming out now .*expletive removed* the law .you get a problem [DEAL WITH IT ] the way that works .

 

 

[Guest chrisss]

this ones for the hawklovers [and their uncle toms](puke)(puke)(puke)(puke)]

on a personal level i get all warm and fuzzy when i look at this picture

[jimmy_bulger]

aahr poor little fker hit by rspb van...SHAME them *expletive removed* hit and run drivers want shooting

[Guest numpty01]

aahr poor little fker hit by rspb van...SHAME them *expletive removed* hit and run drivers want shooting

yep they do a bit like some members on here who think its clever to post rubbish to just stir and have a laugh at our exspence saddo.s

 

[pjc]

looks like Derby bird is out for breakfast!

[REDROCKET]

looks like 2or 3 pigeon feathers lying next to them wonder how they got there lol

[Guest]

looks like 2or 3 pigeon feathers lying next to them wonder how they got there lol

 

3 rung racing pigeons yesterday. I wonder how many the feckers will get today.

 

Just an interesting observation. The RSPB blame the decline in songbirds on the changes in "Natural Habitat" .... WHY are they interfering with the Natural Habitat by supplying Peregrine Falcons with un-natural nesting sites????

[Guest]

 

Well said. Spot on.

 

Mickb i have alot of respect for your posts. It's good to see at least someone is representing your sport responsibly.

Threatning people is needless, and primitive.

 

You send your birds out at their own risk.

Just as falconers do.

Sheep fencing, electrical boxes, and ignorant gun owners kill UK falconers BOP's all the time.

In other countries, particularly the USA, eagles frequently kill falconers birds.

Its no different to your Pigeons. They still send them out knowing the risk.

 

The fact your birds are killed is your fault. As they are your responsibility.

You take pride in your birds welfare, just as falconers do.

We dont want to see your racers taken by wild Peregrines, but its a fact of life that they are,

that will never change.

 

Acting your anger out on wild peregrines will cause nothing but repercussions.

Whilst it continues, the legitimacy of your cause will always be reduced to you being just a bunch of 'angry little pigeon men'.

 

 

Peregrine3, i would'nt go as far to say that when birds get killed its our fault. Yes we contribute just by sending them, knowing the perils that face them. A friend of mine lost their son when a car he was driving was involved in an accident, does that mean it was his fault because he knew the consequences of something going wrong when driving, as accidents do?

 

Our real problem lies in the numbers of BOP. They are protected because their numbers are low, or so the RSPB say. Yet they are probably the only family of bird on the rapid increase in the British Isles. Their population increase is at alarming level, far beyond what nature on its own would of allowed. The RSPB talk of it being as close to nature as possible, yet if you look at the Brighton project you will see that over the last few years they have saved numerous young that have fallen from the nest, where usually they would perish, as do some many other species of birds. By saving just these birds, thousands of birds will perish. Nature allows for mortality, except when it gets interfered with (usually by human). If a species has a great chance of survival then its offspring are low in number, even single birth, if its chances are higher then so the birth rate increases. When they have multiple young its for a reason, protecting all is creating an imbalance.The strongest survive, but when aided, the weak ones will too, that is not nature!

 

I as many others say will protect my birds, that is my nature, the same as farmers protect their livestock (even from domestic pets), that should be my right. I agree that recking nests and persecution for the sake of it is wrong, but should there be a conflict, either the RSPB should listen and repatriate (as they do when it suits them), or face the consequences.

 

The RSPB should realise, or at least admit, that they need the racing pigeons to be in the skies for this project to be a success. If this part of the food chain was removed do they not think it would have a devastating effect on all BOP? For that they should give the fancier some respect and a chance to air their views, otherwise as well as destroying other birds populations, this food chain will become as rare as some are already!!

 

 

[Guest ljb107]

looks like Derby bird is out for breakfast!

 

is that the male, on right camera?