Hawk attack

[Swifts]

 

well if thats what your wisdom advocates hey lets hope percy gets his then alls fair in love n war....

 

I kept pigeons whilst waiting to complete my falconry apprenticeship. I spent every weekend learning the art of hunting wild live quarry with trained raptors. When I wasn't out hawking I was looking after the pigeons. If I witnessed a raptor taking one of my birds I would look at it the same way as a falconry flight: a battle between my bird and its wild opponent. If my bird was successful (My hawk killed its quarry or the pigeon made it back to the loft intact) then it was a great victory for me and my training methods. If, however the bird failed (the quarry made it back to cover or my pigeon was killed) then I felt as if I had gained a worthy new opponent that would live to challenge my (and my birds') skills another day. THEN all is fair in love and war

[Guest numpty01]

 

I kept pigeons whilst waiting to complete my falconry apprenticeship. I spent every weekend learning the art of hunting wild live quarry with trained raptors. When I wasn't out hawking I was looking after the pigeons. If I witnessed a raptor taking one of my birds I would look at it the same way as a falconry flight: a battle between my bird and its wild opponent. If my bird was successful (My hawk killed its quarry or the pigeon made it back to the loft intact) then it was a great victory for me and my training methods. If, however the bird failed (the quarry made it back to cover or my pigeon was killed) then I felt as if I had gained a worthy new opponent that would live to challenge my (and my birds') skills another day. THEN all is fair in love and war

so raceing pigeon going home is fair game if you are out with youer hawk then so if i was near you while you were flying hawk i could mistake it for wood pigeon and shoot it thats fair?????

 

 

[Guest SkyMaster]

so raceing pigeon going home is fair game if you are out with youer hawk then so if i was near you while you were flying hawk i could mistake it for wood pigeon and shoot it thats fair?????

 

your names spot on for you pal hawk and wood pigeon look similar do they id like to hear the judges comments when you come out with that one in court ;D

 

 

[Guest numpty01]

your names spot on for you pal hawk and wood pigeon look similar do they id like to hear the judges comments when you come out with that one in court ;D

 

got bad eyesight youer honer and im a mason nudge nudge wink wink

 

[Swifts]

Um, no. I am talking about pitting a fit, healthy captive animal against a fit, healthy wild opponent. Not pointing a gun at an unsuspecting pigeon and pulling the trigger. Mind you, whilst talking about mistaking things for woodpigeons when out with the shotgun, isn't that a big risk to YOUR birds? would you abolish pigeon shooting if you could? I've seen plenty of racers alongside woodies in the game bag at the end of the day. When your birds don't come home, don't be so quick to jump on the raptors.

[Guest numpty01]

your names spot on for you pal hawk and wood pigeon look similar do they id like to hear the judges comments when you come out with that one in court ;D

 

 

plus the hawk had attack me photo evidance shown

[Guest SkyMaster]

24 months detention wink wink take him down!

[Guest]

i have a theory about why/how a b.o.p allways seams to pick out your best birds when it strikes the team especialy percy iam told that when they start there dive they have allready picked out there target and dont change after starting the strike so what makes them select a particular bird i think it looks for something different in one of them thats where my theory comes in a good bird has a different wing beat and the b.o.p sees that as a weakness and bingo your best bird has gone! just my theory

 

nice to see you back rose

[Swifts]

Oh and for the record I do not hunt any pigeons with my hawks. In fact, I don't think any falconers do in Britain apart from pest control. We are hunters, not muggers of tired pigeons.

[Guest numpty01]

Um, no. I am talking about pitting a fit, healthy captive animal against a fit, healthy wild opponent. Not pointing a gun at an unsuspecting pigeon and pulling the trigger. Mind you, whilst talking about mistaking things for woodpigeons when out with the shotgun, isn't that a big risk to YOUR birds? would you abolish pigeon shooting if you could? I've seen plenty of racers alongside woodies in the game bag at the end of the day. When your birds don't come home, don't be so quick to jump on the raptors.

trouble is the woodpigeon is totaly diffrent to racer and if you shot racer then you would be crul take the other day sparrow hawk had hen there for leaveing two young and lonely cock and if youer after wood pigeo you wont get any walking round with gun you hide and use decoys ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[Guest]

Amazing facts

I find it very strange that nearly every BOP person that comes on here, states that he/she kept pigeons before changing to falconry.

I also noticed that all these BOP enthusiasts come in like a lamb and go out like a lion.

If you read between the lines every BOP poster, uses the same old argument, but never backs it with solid facts

I wonder how many of them come on here to be CONSTRUCTIVE or just to cause DISRUPTION.

From reading all the threads of the past few weeks. I am convinced these people are "Wind-up Merchants" and the best way of treating them is to totally ignore them and not to give them the satisfaction of achieving what they came on here for, to SH1T STIR

 

[Guest numpty01]

24 months detention wink wink take him down!

not in this life time more like would you like to have holiday so you can work out were you were abused as kid makeing you kill things

 

 

[Swifts]

trouble is the woodpigeon is totaly diffrent to racer and if you shot racer then you would be crul take the other day sparrow hawk had hen there for leaveing two young and lonely cock and if youer after wood pigeo you wont get any walking round with gun you hide and use decoys ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

And hawk isn't totally different from woodpigeon? I'm sorry I shot your racer, me honour, I'm short sighted, thought it was a hawk Anyway, I don't shoot.

Also, why is it crueller to shoot racers? or is it just because they're yours? If you shoot a woodie what are the chances that that has young and a mate too? If you kill any animal you have to face the consequences. Once you've got it in your gunsight they're all living things regardless of who owns it.

[blaz]

 

If you paid  ten thousand pounds for a pigeon would you let it out to fly? would it not be a safe bet keeping it in an aviary

 

i know of a bird valued at more than 10,ooo sent to race from france.

[Guest numpty01]

there site is to quite for then two posts in two months  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest SkyMaster]

trouble is the woodpigeon is totaly diffrent to racer and if you shot racer then you would be crul take the other day sparrow hawk had hen there for leaveing two young and lonely cock and if youer after wood pigeo you wont get any walking round with gun you hide and use decoys ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

hawks rarely attack wood pigeons  because of the markings  the hite flashes on the wings and neck why dont you lot put terror eyes on your pigeons?

[Guest SkyMaster]

Amazing facts

I find it very strange that nearly every BOP person that comes on here, states that he/she kept pigeons before changing to falconry.

I also noticed that all these BOP enthusiasts come in like a lamb and go out like a lion.

If you read between the lines every BOP poster, uses the same old argument, but never backs it with solid facts

I wonder how many of them come on here to be CONSTRUCTIVE or just to cause DISRUPTION.

From reading all the threads of the past few weeks. I am convinced these people are "Wind-up Merchants" and the best way of treating them is to totally ignore them and not to give them the satisfaction of achieving what they came on here for, to SH1T STIR

 

no1 is forcing you  to come on the thread bob and why do you think we dont have pigeons is that because we dont have the same opinion as you?

 

 

[Guest numpty01]

 

And hawk isn't totally different from woodpigeon? I'm sorry I shot your racer, me honour, I'm short sighted, thought it was a hawk Anyway, I don't shoot.

 

hawks are pests and need selective culling raceing pigeons are harmless racehorse.s of the sky and are not used for blood sport one day they will be banned as hunting animals or birds for sport is sick and purely to satify lust for blood

 

 

[Guest SkyMaster]

 

i know of a bird valued at more than 10,ooo sent to race from france.

fine if you can afford to lose 10 thousand  pound

 

 

[Swifts]

hawks are pests and need selective culling raceing pigeons are harmless racehorse.s of the sky and are not used for blood sport one day they will be banned as hunting animals or birds for sport is sick and purely to satify lust for blood

 

 

And threatening to shoot my hawks and any others that come near your precious "racehorses of the sky" is not sick? I hunt rabbits, crows, gulls etc with my hawk. All pests in need of selective culling

 

 

[Guest SkyMaster]

pigeons are classed as vermin  ;D

[Guest numpty01]

oh dear did you say gulls did you know you cant shoot gulls or indeed kill um and i said if i was in field near you not that i would shoot youer hawk now did i ;)

[Guest SkyMaster]

since when couldnt you kill gulls there was  a big crack down on the gulls  last year as they were getting out of hand

[Guest]

pigeons are classed as vermin  ;D

 

so are yous

[Guest numpty01]

anyway as is the way of hawk keepers or rspb members there is no chance common sense and this is booreing for pigeon site all the time :-/ :-/ :-/