Derby Council Cathedral Nest

[OLDYELLOW]

what happened to chicks ???? are they fledged now surely not ?

[Guest Owen]

Earlier this evening a man from Abertillery telephoned to tell me that he had found a flight feather from one of my birds at a peregrine plucking site near where he lives. The feather was wing stamped. He went on to tell me that the area has feathers scattered all over the place and there are the heads of a lot of birds lying everwhere. His words not mine. When I asked him what sort of birds' heads were there, he said that there a lot of differant birds' heads. Many of them were from small birds. In the following conversation he said that he admired the peregrine falcons and thought that they were beautiful birds. I asked him how he felt about the fact, that since they had recolonised the area, that there were many species of birds that are now never seen. He agreed that it could only be as a result of the peregrines hunting that the mountains are being cleared of a lot of the bird life. And it is no use the RSPB trying to say that it is down to  the stocking density of the mountain sheep. There are far less sheep on the mountains now than there has ever been. And they can not blame farming practices because no-one would be allowed to farm the mountains because it is common land.

Sooner or later, I supose the situation will take care of itself. There will be nothing left to hunt, just the pigeons. Then when we have all packed up and there will be no more pigeons, the public may be told the truth. After rereading what I have just written, I feel very depressed. Where's that bloody rope?

[white logan]

so the RSPB tells them that there is only 2thousand breeding pairs [but admit to 5thousand breeding pairs ]  :X

 

thousands eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,..................... england , that is wales and scotland when mentioned , only ever supported 740 breeding pairs traditionaly , and now it is f--king thousand , those RSPB tossers know how to massage figures

[OLDYELLOW]

Earlier this evening a man from Abertillery telephoned to tell me that he had found a flight feather from one of my birds at a peregrine plucking site near where he lives. The feather was wing stamped. He went on to tell me that the area has feathers scattered all over the place and there are the heads of a lot of birds lying everwhere. His words not mine. When I asked him what sort of birds' heads were there, he said that there a lot of differant birds' heads. Many of them were from small birds. In the following conversation he said that he admired the peregrine falcons and thought that they were beautiful birds. I asked him how he felt about the fact, that since they had recolonised the area, that there were many species of birds that are now never seen. He agreed that it could only be as a result of the peregrines hunting that the mountains are being cleared of a lot of the bird life. And it is no use the RSPB trying to say that it is down to  the stocking density of the mountain sheep. There are far less sheep on the mountains now than there has ever been. And they can not blame farming practices because no-one would be allowed to farm the mountains because it is common land.

Sooner or later, I supose the situation will take care of itself. There will be nothing left to hunt, just the pigeons. Then when we have all packed up and there will be no more pigeons, the public may be told the truth. After rereading what I have just written, I feel very depressed. Where's that bloody rope?

 

i have had 3 birds hawked enroute home two recovered and other not and be out for season , unfortunately as long as we fly and race birds and suply these killers theres going to be a problem ? how about a total lock up of al race birds for 5 years ? dont think there be many takers , but this would decrease alot of wild birds and then the bops population would have to come into line

[Guest]

 

i have had 3 birds hawked enroute home two recovered and other not and be out for season , unfortunately as long as we fly and race birds and suply these killers theres going to be a problem ? how about a total lock up of al race birds for 5 years ? dont think there be many takers , but this would decrease alot of wild birds and then the bops population would have to come into line

this was suggested by a BHW scribe a few years back , i have asked the same question at the clubhouse ,most said if they couldnt fly the birds on a regular basis ,they would pack it in ?                           andy.

 

[white logan]

 

i have had 3 birds hawked enroute home two recovered and other not and be out for season , unfortunately as long as we fly and race birds and suply these killers theres going to be a problem ? how about a total lock up of al race birds for 5 years ? dont think there be many takers , but this would decrease alot of wild birds and then the bops population would have to come into line

 

OLD YELLOW , as daft as that sounds it is a G R E A T  idea , two years would seriously damage the peregrine population and the stupid rspb would have an enquirey over it ,....................... that is just the sort of action that is needed

[Guest Owen]

As a desperate attempt to do something short of a five year lockdown. How about having a concerted effort to remove all the feral and stray pigeons from the towns. Obviously there would be chaos for a while as the BOP would have to look for their food elsewhere. With good planning we could carry this out starting in the autumn and continuing through until the spring. All it would take, is some strategically placed traps and the job could be done quietly and thoroughly. Of course the reasons we would give for doing it would be two fold. To remove a source of contamination for humans and pigeons alike, and to catch and repatriate the strays that would form part of the street populations. Now this would be an ideal role for the RPRA if we could only get them up off there a--es to show a bit of interest in anything other than the Blackpool Show and giving the proceeds away when we need it badly. Charity does not begin at home for us I am afraid.

I know that a complete lock down would almost definately accomplish all our objectives, but there is a heck of a risk that organised pigeon racing would completely disintergrate. And the sport could decline to an extent that it could disappear. We have to consider the businesses and the jobs that depend on the sport. If we did have a successful lockdown most of the essential infastructure would be gone. Perhaps a grand meeting should be organised to thrash out a realistic plan. I know it is good to discuss and talk on this forum, but I think it would be much better if we could show some real committment and take some positive action.    

[OLDYELLOW]

As a desperate attempt to do something short of a five year lockdown. How about having a concerted effort to remove all the feral and stray pigeons from the towns. Obviously there would be chaos for a while as the BOP would have to look for their food elsewhere. With good planning we could carry this out starting in the autumn and continuing through until the spring. All it would take, is some strategically placed traps and the job could be done quietly and thoroughly. Of course the reasons we would give for doing it would be two fold. To remove a source of contamination for humans and pigeons alike, and to catch and repatriate the strays that would form part of the street populations. Now this would be an ideal role for the RPRA if we could only get them up off there a--es to show a bit of interest in anything other than the Blackpool Show and giving the proceeds away when we need it badly. Charity does not begin at home for us I am afraid.

I know that a complete lock down would almost definately accomplish all our objectives, but there is a heck of a risk that organised pigeon racing would completely disintergrate. And the sport could decline to an extent that it could disappear. We have to consider the businesses and the jobs that depend on the sport. If we did have a successful lockdown most of the essential infastructure would be gone. Perhaps a grand meeting should be organised to thrash out a realistic plan. I know it is good to discuss and talk on this forum, but I think it would be much better if we could show some real committment and take some positive action.    

 

removal of feral pigeons wouldnt make any difference the bop cant catch them as they fly low ion and out of buildings so wouldnt make any impact

[Steve0]

I wonder why they dont go out of there way to help the eagle owl there way more endangerd than the peregrine in this country  :-/

[PIGEONJIMI]

I notice one of the 4 peregrines that left the cathedral nest last week has been found dead, It was found on the roof of a block of flats nearby,Thats one less to worry about

[OLDYELLOW]

I notice one of the 4 peregrines that left the cathedral nest last week has been found dead, It was found on the roof of a block of flats nearby,Thats one less to worry about

 

thats a shame  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[slinky slitheroe]

I notice one of the 4 peregrines that left the cathedral nest last week has been found dead, It was found on the roof of a block of flats nearby,Thats one less to worry about

Thats good news i hope the rest end up the same way.