Save And Protect British Song Birds Society

[cowman]

i had this come from someone i forwarded our link too and it makes intresting reading    

We have a Hen Sparrow Hawk, or its successor, that has been resident in the winter on one of our eaves beams for ten years or so now.  The first sign was a lot of pellets like owl pellets on the ground with the droppings.  

 

 

 

Interestingly examining these there are a lot of beetle wing covers, along with fur and other bits.  She disappears in the summer, presumably to mate, nest and bring up offspring.  She's big enough to be able to take out wood pigeons but also robins and other garden birds, especially during what must be the rearing season of her chicks.  What is particularly annoying is she has taken out several spotted woodpeckers.

 

On writing to the RSPB suggesting that they are over protecting the raptors and citing this, they airily replied that there is no shortage of spotted woodpeckers and they are on the increase.  We never seem to see her mate, the very much smaller male sparrow hawk but we do quite often see one or two of her juveniles in the autumn.

 

The RSPB seem to have lost all touch with nature.  Perhaps the biggest joke of all, some years ago they managed to acquire the whole of the Arne peninsular, which divides the upper and lower parts of Poole Harbour.  

 

 

 

Arne is home to a herd of sika deer and the RSPB refused to allow any culling by stalkers.  The inevitable happened the herd got too large for the food supply.  The deer became undernourished, to the point where you could see their ribs painfully sticking out, and then became prone to disease such as mange and ring worm and general malaise.  

 

 

 

The RSPB were taken to court by the RSPCA for mismanagement and maltreatment of animals in their care and lost the case and now have to allow culling.

 

Another example is the old harbour at Pagham, near Bognor Regis.  A storm damaged the harbour's natural protection and it was abandoned and became a wonderful wild fowling venue.  The local wild fowling club employed a full time warden, who cleared excessive weed, kept the predators in order and the wild fowl flourished.  

 

 

 

This was too much for the RSPB, who managed to acquire the harbour with their considerable funds, so as to stop wild fowling.  They employed a part time warden, who of course was not allowed to eliminate or control any predators, being part time he wasn't able to keep abreast of the weed growth, so it is now a rank and desolate spot, with neither a duck or goose able to nest and overrun with vermin.

 

Perhaps we shouldn't entirely blame the RSPB.  People were congratulating us today on the number of house martins and swifts circling round our house.  

 

 

 

We have two pairs of swifts that have nested here as long as we can remember and normally sixty martins' nests, which means by the end of the breeding season 360 martins.  We gather that we have the swifts because we don't stuff up every hole in our eaves - as people are encouraged to do in the interests of energy conservation and are happy to put up with the inevitable mess that the martins make round the house

[Guest numpty01]

yes cowman and a lot of other places they get involved in go to rack ruin and become useless for birds like the moors down here now wasteland were we had waders and lots small birds around the ponds its dump but they want the land they are the biggest land owners in britain but hy thats life look at the peaple that are brainwashed into there web is it anywonder they are so powerfull

[white logan]

there has been an article in the shooting times about the peregrine problems , other official bodies are having concerns about the impact on wildlife peregrines are having, and why the RSPB is only concerned with protecting certain species at the expence of other birds ??????, its all political and a big money earner for the birdies boys

[Guest]

It's about time the Monopolies Commission looked into the RSPB's land assets, before the end up owning the land where the houses stand, of their brainwashed supports.

[Guest numpty01]

It's about time the Monopolies Commission looked into the RSPB's land assets, before the end up owning the land where the houses stand, of their brainwashed supports.

bob they probly already do mate i like the comments in local paper it was shot on reserve said rspb spokesman wait till the paper comes out next week it s land owned by forestry commision not reserve but it will have been a mistake??/////// but the damage done as its printed as reserve

 

[white logan]

cowman ,

                the RSPB making a complete and utter Bo llocks around poole harbour is nothing new , i suppose nearly everyone has heard of ilkley moor in yorkshire , well the beloved RSPB taken over the lease for the sporting rights and stopped all shooting

managed to turn the whole of ilkley moor into a desert , they then commisioned a report as to what could be done and it concluded that it shoud be returned to a sporting estate , wildlife is now flourishing ,

again in Norfolk , the RSPB bought an inland marsh , stopped the local thatcher from cutting reeds , stopped the local farmers grazing cattle and sheep and again mannaged to turn the place into a desert , seems like when they become involved things go "tits up"and the very thing they want to conserve , gets destroyed .

eventually someone is going to realise what has happend to the one plentifull lapwing ,................. the peregrines eaten them , so come on lads and put plenty of birds in the race basket

[Guest bristolkev]

had a reply today by letter from my local MP.....sent her the petition and other info on BOP.

 

 

 

Dawn Primarolo

Labour MP for Bristol South

www.bristolsouth la bou rpa rty.o rg. u k

 

Constituency Office

PO Box 1002, Bristol, BS99 1WH 01179090063 (10am-1pm)

p ri ma rolod@parliament.uk

 

DP /cm/WINT01022/01091518

 

 

Dear Mr Wintle

 

6 July 2009

 

Thank you for your email in connection with your concerns about Britain's songbird

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population.

I confirm that I have written to raise this matter with the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs. I will let you know when I receive a response but please do not hesitate to contact me in the meantime should the need arise.

 

 

Dawn Primarolo

Labour MP for Bristol South

I may contact you with further information on this and other issues. If you would prefer not to receive these updates, please write to me at the above address.

[Guest numpty01]

good this week is turning iinto lot intrest from others i had long conversation today with couple peaple and they should be productive ???all the info will be put on sobsb site at end of week??i have also read quite few articals from the 90.s which are a mine of info concerning the attemp by fanciers to get things changed which did not work also from the 70.s with the same problem flying rats no public intrest

[Guest bigda]

i would like to   give you 4 young birds for your sale to raise money  for the campaign  

[Guest numpty01]

thanks bigda but we do not need birds or funds at the moment thanks for youer kind offertho

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

thanks bigda but we do not need birds or funds at the moment thanks for youer kind offertho

whos in charge of this organisation then

 

 

[Guest bigda]

what do you mean  no need  for  money  

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

what do you mean  no need  for  money  

 

maybe no treasurer yet i would like to sign up and be treasurer

 

[Guest bigda]

your add in the bhw must have cost you  about £100 alone  

[Guest numpty01]

i will post this here as valance has locked thread on preditors it was clear this subject would bring the boys brigade out the woodwork due to its very nature but i must agree some comments are over the top includeing mine but i will add my comments are mine and i take responsablity for them ??? now the supposed conflict between the two campaigns is not conflict as such but two diffrent views now i stated i would support theres from the begaing and will do so but i fail to see the reason behind none of them signing petition we all beleave in and need to get done for a change in the law on preditors so what is the reason for not signing then complaining conflict this will be my last post on this matter and i wish them luck in their crusade

[Guest numpty01]

your add in the bhw must have cost you  about £100 alone  

to date i have not spent a penny and as to bhw they agree the way im going so are happy to cover cost themself.s as to other things happening its all free :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/even the poster.s are donated plus the flyers for my weekend with the iff that should be intresting with falconers from around the world ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

to date i have not spent a penny and as to bhw they agree the way im going so are happy to cover cost themself.s as to other things happening its all free :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/even the poster.s are donated plus the flyers for my weekend with the iff that should be intresting with falconers from around the world ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

whats the iff

 

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

internation falconry federation? lol

[Guest numpty01]

international falconary forum

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

are you going to meet them or just going on there forum

[Guest numpty01]

im going to the festival mate in reading

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

and your going to hand out flyers u had best take a pigeon with you as a messenger of war

[Guest bigda]

you seem to be on the ball there numpty, best of luck at the weekend remember to take ripsaw  along in case there is any fighting to be done

[Guest HighSpeedLofts]

how do i join up whos president chairman whatever

[Guest numpty01]

what you find with most peaple they are brave on here but when face to face are diffrent  myself im not going to war but to party that is the aim and to put my point of view on what i feel is the problem ?? what a lot fail to see is the falconers although very singleminded have worse problem than us the rspb beleave noone should keep captive hawks and they could easily cause problem ?? while on there site it was obvious who the real flyers were and the rspb lackys were and the problem was escaleted by there rudeness  ;D ;D ;D