covlet feathers under the wing

[birdman55678]

Under the wings there are three feathers that are either rounded or squared off, do these have any special meaning to anyone and if so what do they mean for you.  I have cataloged all of mine and more have the squared off covlet feathers.  Thanks in advance.  Ed

[Wiley]

i remember dave allen saying something in one of his videos about it mate,will dig it out next couple of days to revise what he says about them

[Silverdale Lofts]

They always said round flights for racing square for breeding dont know how true it is.

[Tim.Farr]

Pretty sure a few years back when I first was getting into the birds some guys told me the square flights indicate inbreeding(which would explain why it's better for breeding) and the round ones indicate some form of an outcross(better for racing).

[Guest bristolkev]

get hold of the john magee video,he has some good theory`s on this. ;D

[birdman55678]

Have not heard of either Dave Allen or John Magee.  The videos available over here are very limited.  Is there a place on line that will let you order them.  Thanks. Ed

[Guest bristolkev]

try here

 

http://www.gemsupplements.co.uk/

 

the john mcgee video or dvd

[birdman55678]

thanks my friend.  Ed

[Guest]

BIRDMAN WHAT WAS THE OUTCOME OF YOUR INVESTIGATION OF THESE FEATHERS

[birdman55678]

Actually it was inconclusive but the higher percentage of good were the squared feathers.  I will continue  the test as I now intend to only pair square feathered birds to square and round to round and will then test the young on not only performance but to see if the square only begets the square and the same with the round.  Time will tell.  Ed

[Guest]

Was the sq feathers not meant to donate distance?

[mac1]

i heard that aswell frank

[birdman55678]

Not sure Frank but that maybe so.  I am just trying to find out if the square or round is any indication of the better bird.  I have not thought about it indicating distance or not but rest assured I will check and see how they have done as far as sprint and distance compared to feather type.  Thanks Ed

[edthekid]

any photos to show dif

[birdman55678]

any photos to show dif

 

The 3 covlet feathers are in what would be the arm pit if on a person.  They stand out very well and if you see the squared off feathers then you will immediately know.  I have looked in many lofts and have always seen both.  If you have problems just PM me and we can go into more detail.   Ed

[pigeonscout]

Is it the same for hens and cocks? I was told the longer the better I do not know if this is true but it seems all good bird have long squared off feathers. I would also like to know if these feathers change with age or moult.

I was told the the end flight of a good bird should be a bit longer than the one next to it. I found it could be longer one year then the next moult it was not.

[birdman55678]

Is it the same for hens and cocks? I was told the longer the better I do not know if this is true but it seems all good bird have long squared off feathers. I would also like to know if these feathers change with age or moult.

I was told the the end flight of a good bird should be a bit longer than the one next to it. I found it could be longer one year then the next moult it was not.

 

pigeonscout..

I have found that the squared off feathers are also more prevelant in my loft than the round ones.  I have found that they do not change with either age or moult.  When discussing flight feathers it also seems to hold true that the number 10 flight seems to always be 1/4 inch or so shorter than the number 9 on my longer distance birds and my speed birds seem to have all #10 flights a tad longer than the 9th.   Any thoughts from you???

[Ronnie]

I thought the number ten flight being shorter than the number nine is a sign of to much inbreeding.(linebreeding).I may be wrong i'm still learning and reading a hell of a lot of stuff so i may be confusing myself .If it was shorter then its one sign towards an outcross being needed.

[Ronnie]

Ignore my last post, after looking at my birds (none are line bred or inbred) and i have both long number 10's and shorter number 10's.