Deep Litter

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

I done it a few months ago but the misses kept moaning about trailing it throught the house

[sammy]

GET SOME FIFE SILICA SAND

[chickadee]

I done it a few months ago but the misses kept moaning about trailing it throught the house

 

How much is it and for what size of bag, can you remember?

[chickadee]

GET SOME FIFE SILICA SAND

 

What kind is that and where do you get it? :-/

[sammy]

 

What kind is that and where do you get it? :-/

 

yi get it from fife thats were its white sand

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

How much is it and for what size of bag, can you remember?

 

Got mine from B&Q about £4.50 for 15kilos so not to expencive

[chickadee]

 

yi get it from fife thats were its white sand

 

But where aboot in fife? we cannae use beach sand, we cannae use quarry sand so where do you get the white sand? :-/

[chickadee]

 

Got mine from B&Q about £4.50 for 15kilos so not to expencive

 

Thanks very much, might get a bag tae try it. ;D

[sammy]

 

But where aboot in fife? we cannae use beach sand, we cannae use quarry sand so where do you get the white sand? :-/

 

canny tell yi swore to secrecy geed yi enough info as it is  ;D ;D

[chickadee]

 

canny tell yi swore to secrecy geed yi enough info as it is  ;D ;D

 

Is it no aboot time you went away again? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Guest]

Likes of B&Q and Homebase do 10kg? bags of different types of sand, ranging from £3 - £5.

 

Playpit stuff is most expensive, I think, but reckon its a fine grade, well sifted, kiln-dried sand, so there's nothing nasty in it to cut, infect or infest.  

[sammy]

just leave the droppings to dry natural instead of sand does the same job nd dont cost anything  ;D ;D

[homer]

personally , i dont like ANY deep litter !

     deep litter is for chicken and turkey farmers with hundreds of birds to look after.

     for me its a shallow litter and clean em out every day !

(gonna be contraversial now) deep litter in your average pigeon loft is for lazy fanciers that only want to muck out a couple a times a year !...................................................................................................................................... there u go , i said it.

[EAGLEOWL]

i never use deep littler, i like to clean me lofts everyday ,helps me relax when i get home from work ,also makes the birds used to me lifting floor grills banging about etc as they watch in amusement.

 

would you eat a meal in restraunt that never cleaned the plates and cups ;D

 

yes i know some people are very successful flying to deep litter but its not for me .

[Guest TAMMY_1]

scrape them out , best way for me

[Guest]

personally , i dont like ANY deep litter !

     deep litter is for chicken and turkey farmers with hundreds of birds to look after.

     for me its a shallow litter and clean em out every day !

(gonna be contraversial now) deep litter in your average pigeon loft is for lazy fanciers that only want to muck out a couple a times a year !...................................................................................................................................... there u go , i said it.

 

Actually I have to agree!!! and by the time you have finnished messing about with it raking it over,adding lime etc,etc you might aswell just clean out!,the kiln dried sand available from builders merchants is ok provided you have a bone dry loft but if rain can blow in forget it as it never dries out and can harbour cocci.

[homer]

PHEW !

thats 2 on my side ...........thank goodness,

ive been in sum sheds where the s**t  is 6 inches deep and iv bin told its the 'deep litter' system ?

[chickadee]

Well since we've built the new loft, have had nothing on floor, (it was easier to scrape I must say) then just been putting a sprinkling of stalosan down once scraped.

[Guest]

PHEW !

thats 2 on my side ...........thank goodness,

ive been in sum sheds where the s**t  is 6 inches deep and iv bin told its the 'deep litter' system ?

 

You can't beat just cleaning out every day,you should take pride in the state of your loft

[PC]

Well i live in south france & i use deep litter as we are restoring the house last summer i used the excess "chaux" brushings from the stone walls this is basicaly a french building lime mixed with 3-4 parts sand then water when it dries its solid but just before its fully dry the excess is brushed off the walls to expose all the stones this excess is what ive used

 

with this & large floor vents under the nest boxes the lofts are constantly dry racking & cleaning out is easy & the lime in the mix pretty much sorts out the nastys & ive seen no ill effects in the birds actualy it seams to still react slightly so once it gets wet it dries fast

 

im going to try another section with this plus oak wood shavings as the high tanin levels make that death to most creepys but i will use wall mounted drinkers as i dont fancy the idea of the birds drinking water with the tanins in

[Guest]

Well i live in south france & i use deep litter as we are restoring the house last summer i used the excess "chaux" brushings from the stone walls this is basicaly a french building lime mixed with 3-4 parts sand then water when it dries its solid but just before its fully dry the excess is brushed off the walls to expose all the stones this excess is what ive used

 

with this & large floor vents under the nest boxes the lofts are constantly dry racking & cleaning out is easy & the lime in the mix pretty much sorts out the nastys & ive seen no ill effects in the birds actualy it seams to still react slightly so once it gets wet it dries fast

 

im going to try another section with this plus oak wood shavings as the high tanin levels make that death to most creepys but i will use wall mounted drinkers as i dont fancy the idea of the birds drinking water with the tanins in

You've obviously put alot of thought into this and can't see anything wrong with deep litter systems run properly,the problem comes with fanciers who don't know what they are doing or worse still just use it as an excuse not to clean out,like in Homers post above.Good luck with it

 

[jimbobboy]

Have you mates tried ground up corn cobs?   Makes great floor liter and rakes up easy!!!   Sell it here in US,  Some dealers try to make it homemade but it must be cleaned and sterile , birds pick tru it sometimes and you don't want any corn in it.  Very inexpensive.     jimbobboy

[Guest]

i dont believe this thread is still running,i think its a pity that some members spend too much time worrying wot others have in their sheds and should occupy their minds on their own lofts!

i use deep litter and i dont care 2 sh!xs wot others on this forum think.

im not lazy for having deep litter nor is my cot inches deep in sh!x.

i think its about time some members keep their thoughts on deep litter fanciers to themselves if they have NO PROOF that members on this site who use deep litter are wot some fanciers say they are(lazy).

if u have seen deep litter sheds messed up then thats them not everyone who uses this method.

wots the saying about tarring everyone with the same brush?????.

i think ur find that( frank tasker )uses litter and can u fault his record of flying?

if u have a clean cot cause u clean everyday so be it...if u have a deep litter cot so be it....untill someone pays for ur rent/corn/birds shed...then let each to their own,this thread will eventually bring hostility amongst each other and we dont want that do we?..so i say again each to his/her own and like it or lump it...paul :) :)

 

[Guest karl adams]

i use kilm dryed sand mixed with lime in the winter but when the races start it will stop and i will clean them 2 to 3 times a day

[Guest TAMMY_1]

i dont believe this thread is still running,i think its a pity that some members spend too much time worrying wot others have in their sheds and should occupy their minds on their own lofts!

i use deep litter and i dont care 2 sh!xs wot others on this forum think.

im not lazy for having deep litter nor is my cot inches deep in sh!x.

i think its about time some members keep their thoughts on deep litter fanciers to themselves if they have NO PROOF that members on this site who use deep litter are wot some fanciers say they are(lazy).

if u have seen deep litter sheds messed up then thats them not everyone who uses this method.

wots the saying about tarring everyone with the same brush?????.

i think ur find that( frank tasker )uses litter and can u fault his record of flying?

if u have a clean cot cause u clean everyday so be it...if u have a deep litter cot so be it....untill someone pays for ur rent/corn/birds shed...then let each to their own,this thread will eventually bring hostility amongst each other and we dont want that do we?..so i say again each to his/her own and like it or lump it...paul :) :)

 

what makes this thread different from any other Paul in the length of time it is kept running ? is that not the idea of them being kept on here so that members can go back and reply to something they may have missed, everybody has gave an opinion on what other members do as maybe regarding feeding methods or flying methods, you yourself have expressed an opinion on threads and posts, that is the whole point of a discussion forum, so members can discuss and debate on what each member does, and how many normal threads have an element of hostility in them somewhere, one example of you bringing things back up was the saga of coxy, how many threads did you start or bring up regarding that  ? you can't criticise somebody for bringing up older threads , that is what they are there for, i myself have brought up threads when i thought they had some relevance at some point no matter how old they were, lately i have saw threads brought up that were more than a year old , nobody lambasted them,this is like a library , things are stored for members to read, new members will go back through threads that are old and if they find something to reply to they must be allowed to bring it back up, older threads brought back up always seem to get more replies so things kept running are a much needed thing, what would happen if things were deleted after a brief spell on the forum, how can you then bring things back and let them run on,calm down and get a grip of yourself and behave . ;)