aldo1 Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 how to get them mature enough to breed in january?
Hogni Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 If it was me i would pair them in march at the first, but i intend to give latebreeds more time then birds born in the spring or summer.For an example i have two hens born in the first week of august which will not be paired until april or even may.
Guest shadow Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 how to get them mature enough to breed in january? they will be too young do not bother
superstar Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 Nature is a funny old gal though, bought 2 pairs of late breds off Chris Howse last september and guess what? Yes they went down of their own accord and successfully reared youngsters in January! So not impossible and those birds show no sign of stress, ill health or anything else detrimental to themselves. Another example is a couple of latebred Van Reets I had that chose not to go down untill April so just depends on the birds I guess! Cant see it is any diferent racing youngbirds bred this April/May to youngsters of their own now. If conditions are right they will be at it! Im off now to cash in on the fact I've found Lord Loucan! Now that really is UNBELIEVABLE lol
Guest spin cycle Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 how to get them mature enough to breed in january? why do you want to do it.?..if they are well bred perhaps you want youngsters as soon as possible ? if so its a 'shortcut' and as such it might work...but it may not..in which case you may damage them/rear sub standard ybs or both. if they're worth the investment then they're worth the wait JMO
me Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 The fact that all the pertinent posts on this thread about the welfare of extremely young pigeons have been deleted by the webmaster tells you all you have to know about this forum. Sad and dictatorial in the extreme. Goodbye.
Guest chrisss Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 would i be correct in saying that some strains mature faster than others,in saying that would the birds be harmed if bred from to early?,what i mean is i would never breed from a pair born this month, until at least next april,[this is a need to know as i have a pair turning up myself in about two weeks]
Webmaster Posted August 28, 2008 Report Posted August 28, 2008 The fact that all the pertinent posts on this thread about the welfare of extremely young pigeons have been deleted by the webmaster tells you all you have to know about this forum. Sad and dictatorial in the extreme. Goodbye. There are ways and means of getting your point across. Unfortunately the point you were making (which is often very good) was undermined by your initial derogatory comments. Lots of people have replied in similar vein to your point without resorting to using this type of comment. When and where we can we will try and moderate out only the offending comments, but in this case that was not possible. This forum is all about asking questions and getting advice, derogatory comments towards a member will not be tolerated.
pjc Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 most families of birds have there differences, if you keep your youngbirds together some cocks will start to show far before others and its no different for latebreds. Personally I wouldn't even bother thinking of pairing them in January, breed from your old birds and leave them until the spring and the weather warms up, but watch the birds as they will tell you when they are ready.
Tony C Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 The other consideration you have to take into account is them upsetting the whole loft by going into wrong boxes and ending up with smashed eggs. I'd take a couple of rounds out of the older pigeons first then think about pairing up the latebreds if I were you.
Guest Posted August 29, 2008 Report Posted August 29, 2008 Generally birds that are 4 or 5 months old should pair, but its usually the hens that you struggle with, although getting a cock into a box sometimes is a hard task too. All thru the winter i would keep them parted but every week put both sexes together for a few hours, they won't pair straight off but it will kinda "kick start" their breeding cycle. The first cock i paired successfully this year was a June bred one in January.
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