yb help

[FoxesFan4Ever]

Hi again,

 

OK so this time it seems 1 of my young uns has a ruptured air sac. I wouldn't have known but have been told thats a definite by people who have seen it before.

So I have been told to pop it with a needle. Well I didn't know how to do that and the guy who had seen it before in his own birds had his done by an old woman who used to live near him and he doesn't know how to do it anyway so I asked a guy who lives near me but who I dont really know to do it so I could see how it's done and know for the future. Well he came round and started popping this bird at the bottom of the puffed up bit and squeezing although 2 days later I can't see any difference so I am gonna try myself.

So that is the background and the question is: is there a specific place I should stick the needle?

I mean he stuck it in near the birds chest which I would have thought would be where the bird keeps his lungs and I was thinking maybe I should stick it in the bit that is actually puffed up and obviously not what could be a normal part of the bird?

Any and all advice gratefully received so long as it isn't kill it cuz that's not gonna happen.

Thanks all

 

Foxes Never Quit

 

[OLDYELLOW]

although not an answers to your question i would like to ask if any barley is been fed to the young birds in question ?

[FoxesFan4Ever]

No barley, no maize. All they have at moment is Bucktons Young Bird mix which i don't believe contains either of those although I have got rid of the bag so I may be proved wrong...to the best of my knowledge the answer is no though.

[Guest numpty01]

if you have a seryinge then use that to punture airsac not in the chest just look at bird and see centre of bulge then stick needle in there

[Okitsme]

Hi

 

I had a pigeon come back from a race with a ruptured airsac. I was told to leave it and not let it out for a week. The pigeon healed itself without any interference from me. Its back to normal now. Hope this helps.

[OLDYELLOW]

Hi

 

I had a pigeon come back from a race with a ruptured airsac. I was told to leave it and not let it out for a week. The pigeon healed itself without any interference from me. Its back to normal now. Hope this helps.

 

i did same thing with a cock over a year ago same cock hasent had any problems since

[Guest IB]

I posted a warning on the last thread on this. Helps if you know what it is and what you are trying to achieve.

 

Use a hollow needle (vaccination needle) sterilised, - vet advice. I think if you stick a pin into skin (any animal) and pull it out, it just seals up again?

 

The air is trapped under the skin, in the bird's body cavity, so its just the birds skin you puncture, not an air sac, not the crop. This releases the air through the needle, and because of the difference in air pressures inside the bird and outside atmosphere, the trapped air vents itself, you should not need to squeeze anything. I think you risk injuring the bird if you squeeze, it should vent by itself, if you do it right..

 

I'm sorry, I can't help with where you puncture. It's on a video I have, I'll need to try and have another look at it when I get home tonight.

[Guest IB]

Hi, sorry couldn't post sooner, I have 2 videos Frank Harper made in 1999 & 2000, I couldn't remember which one showed ruptured air sac treatment, and watched wrong one first.

 

He says if left alone, it will come OK by itself within 2/3 weeks.

 

If it is causing discomfort (i.e. more than just neck area affected, extending down the body) then use a sterilised vaccination needle, and puncture at highest point of bit where trapped air is.

 

He held needle tip pointing towards birds head, at a very shallow angle to skin. One hand held the bird round the neck / throat, with his fingers resting under the beak, and he used his other hand to push the needle in, just clear of his fingers round the throat. Puncture area is front (throat) area, angle is so shallow that needle almost rests on skin, and needle remains in till 'balloon' is deflated..

 

Apologies to Lenwadebob and other posters for my comments on 'don't squeeze'. Frank Harper did say 'squeeze gently' and he used his fingers round the birds neck do this.

 

 

[DAVE1975]

i hav a yb and its crop has filled up with air

he is eating drinking and flying ok

any answers 2 wat this is and wats caused it

cheers

[Guest spin cycle]

i hav a yb and its crop has filled up with air

he is eating drinking and flying ok

any answers 2 wat this is and wats caused it

cheers

 

i don't know but i'd of thought someone would...best of luck:)

[OLDYELLOW]

ruptured air sack by the sounds of it , i left one of mine that did that and went down on its own

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

slice it open ith a very sharp knife just a tiny wee slit mate

[Guest WINGS 04]

slice it open ith a very sharp knife just a tiny wee slit mate

 

you can ues a pin to do this but get some 1 to look at it first

[Guest Greig the doo Drysdale]

 

you can ues a pin to do this but get some 1 to look at it first

 

go on ings post mate i am only saying 3rd hand as i have heard ppl talking about it

[DAVE1975]

slice it open ith a very sharp knife just a tiny wee slit mate

 

wouldnt no wre to start mate

[Guest]

Read IB's post above