help with darkness

[Guest]

Hi as im just starting im only going to be racing young birds can someone talk me through this system or post  a link where i can learn about it thanks very much pp

[blackdog]

http://desmoore.tripod.com/id24.html

[DAVIDL]

 

 

  as far as im aware the darkness system is used to force the ybs to moult sooner than normal so they can race the full yb program rather than them be falling to bits flying natural......the ybs are made to moult be simulating the hours of winter which i think will be about 8`oclock am to come light and approx 4`oclock pm to come dark, im just restartng this year with ybs myself and am hoping to try the darkness system.......obviously there is more to it than what ive said but as far as i know that is the basics of it......

[Guest]

thanks blackdog

[Guest]

thanks david

[Guest frank dooman]

i do the darkness very sucessfuly and that link is very helpfull but i would say that playing about to much with y/birds can be very dangerous especialy for a new start infact i would sugest that a new start should racethe y/birds on natural for a few yearsjust to get to know whats what just my oppinion

[Guest stevie-b]

if u do it correctly u will be fine it does not have to be pitch black inside i put mines on from 6.30pm untill 7.30 am i would recomend to use gerry plus for feeding try to ensure stale air can escape when darkend what i would emphasise is train them as much as possible

[Guest]

ok thanks steve

[Guest stevie-b]

no probs i also get mine tested a few times just to make sure everything fine belgasol in water fri sat i use garlic on corn twice a week and adherb twice a week on corn also

[Guest puresoontjen]

what i do is bang them all up around 6pm and go back at 10pm and open the doors so they get the break of daylight  thats if you got an avairy on so they dont fly off if you use some thing to dark it down do it as if you can read a newpapper. so they can get to the drinkers

[friendsloft]

Darkness youngsters will keep the birds in full feather for the longer races at the back end of the season, natural you will only get about  3 races out of them before they start falling to bits, as you are just starting off with young birds and trying to build a team for 2011 i would choose the natural way the birds would have been schooled had at least 3 races under their belt, stop them at let them mature for 2011 season with out too much stress

Ken

[Guest]

nice avatar steve is that you in drag at the weekend

[Guest stevie-b]

pmsl no chance cross between johny vegas and peter kay more chance o that being u pmsl

[Guest frank dooman]

Darkness youngsters will keep the birds in full feather for the longer races at the back end of the season, natural you will only get about  3 races out of them before they start falling to bits, as you are just starting off with young birds and trying to build a team for 2011 i would choose the natural way the birds would have been schooled had at least 3 races under their belt, stop them at let them mature for 2011 season with out too much stress

Ken

 

thats exactly what i was saying wait till you have a good reliable team of old birds then move to darkness or you maybe chasing your tail every year trying to build a team

[Guest]

yeah i thought ud hacked into my pics for a second lol

[Guest stevie-b]

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[Guest]

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[Guest stevie-b]

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[David Home]

I would suggest that you learn to walk before you run. I don't mean that to sound patronising but I feel you would be far better racing your youngsters naturally for a couple of years just to get to know your birds and their habbits first. Once youv'e done that, then if you still want to have a go at the darkness system then I would suggest that you read as much as you can on the subject, visit as many top flyers using this system as you can. Then work out your own plan of attack and stick to it, because what works for one man dosen't always work for everyone. All the best with whatever you choose to do.

[jimmy white]

I would suggest that you learn to walk before you run. I don't mean that to sound patronising but I feel you would be far better racing your youngsters naturally for a couple of years just to get to know your birds and their habbits first. Once youv'e done that, then if you still want to have a go at the darkness system then I would suggest that you read as much as you can on the subject, visit as many top flyers using this system as you can. Then work out your own plan of attack and stick to it, because what works for one man dosen't always work for everyone. All the best with whatever you choose to do.

 

i would most certainly agree with wee david here, i say this as i know david did exactly this  as a very young lad,, then after only a couple of years, david won young fancier of the year,,,  david learned a lot in blackpool,   ;D,,,,,speaking with , and taking in, all that was to be learned from most top fanciers, also visiting them, constantly taking  everything in, watching and listening very carefully,, as his post reflects,, a very good sound post