Training

[Guest joshdonlan]

How would you go about training youngbirds?

 

How do you pick your training spots?

 

Can you train from anywhere, or only certain directions etc?

 

Thanks for the help  

[Guest peter.j]

once there doing an hour around the loft i go 5 mile every day till they beat me home then the same @7 mile ,10 mile and 15 mile then i just exercise around the loft when racing starts

[Guest bakes]

oright bud i train line of flight mate what i do as you starting up with ybs i kept an eye on the birds mate when you let them out for the first time and there flying crazey after a while they will group up once i no my ybs are grouping up and flying for a good amopunt of time and they go off rangeing ie out of view away from lofts after i see this 3 times and i no there rangeing for a good 1hr or so the day i have intended for there first training toss a few days before this i put a few baskets in the yb section with the basket open so the ybs and come and go as they please wonce i no they are happy in the basket and they are drinking from the trays i fit to the side of the basket while they are in there me or my misses will basket them up take them to around a few say 50 yards away from the loft just to get them use to comeing out the basket wonce we have done this at least 5 times the morning of the day for the first toss me or the misses will let them out normally for there morning flight as soon as they come back in i give them an light feed 1 hr rest then we take them to 1 mile i libberate them dont worry when they come out the basket for the first time away from the lofts they will circle for a little while then they get there bareings and be off home a get back home the fastest i can so i can see them come back as soon as i see them the tins out shakeing saying come on get them in as fast as you can mate as i take my training as if i was raceing they will have a few tosses from 1 mile to im happy they are beating me back home then 5 mile till they beating me back then to 10 mile same till they beating me back then 15,20,25 mile i only move them on to the next stages to i no yes everytime they libbed i get back there in loft waiting for me to go in to check on them another thing i would say mate always make shore someone is waiting at the lofts for them mate as you wont them in i always give my birds when training a tit bit iver some small seed or a few peanuts as a thank you for i have asked them to do im a soft git lol well am with my pigeons lol hope this helps you out mate it works for me and the misses this is how we do it a good old saying that geoff kirkland said to me and i always will remember this try to show them every gatepost home

 

all the best.

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

agree with peter and you want spots with no wires ect and near land marks like water towers well that what i do so hopefully on a race day the birds will reconise these and speed up towards home

[Guest WINGS 04]

once there doing an hour around the loft i go 5 mile every day till they beat me home then the same @7 mile ,10 mile and 15 mile then i just exercise around the loft when racing starts

 

Do you look to win with your young birds when you do this and you say when they are doing 1 hour then you start traninig them is that when the old birds are still racing  

[Guest ROCKYandRAMBO]

you would have to be training them when the old birds are racing

[BLACK W F]

josh once your y/bs start running and are going away for a couple of hours rangeing away from the loft  leave them untill 4 weeks before the first race train them in the line of flight between 5and 10 mls  twice a day if possable then move them up to 20 mls still twice a day if possable then the 3rd week toss them 20mls all points of the compass  and the last week give them 3 x40mls  in the line of flight  mon tues wed  no training thursday and dont let out friday   give them a 40ml toss each wed weather permiting thats what i would do  thats a basic system   remember when you start training they will soon stop running

[Guest peter.j]

 

Do you look to win with your young birds when you do this and you say when they are doing 1 hour then you start traninig them is that when the old birds are still racing  

 

well of course when old birds are still racing but theres different times of day to give them there liberty and saturday is a no no for exercise till after race birds home so dont get what your point is

[Guest shippy]

i used to fly against a fancier in our south road club who only trained 15 mile north east of his loft where he worked he was the man to beat come saturday what i am trying to say is you make the best of what you have

[marmite]

i know im lazy but i only give my yb 5 tosses from 20 - 25 miles start there and finish there in the 2 week gap before yb racing as long as there fit and healthy and flying well at home and rangeing well this is all i give them cos once u start training they seem to stop rangeing so much  but hey it works well 4 me and as i said im lazy when it comes to training  prefer to have them working well at home but many roads lead to roam

[Guest joshdonlan]

Thanks for the replys. How do I work out the line of flight?  :-/

 

Cheers

[Guest Owen]

You need to start them off when they range, as has already been said. This is whether or not you are racing Old Birds. But before you do that, you need to get them educated at home. They must trap quickly and come when they are called, otherwise it is a wast of time training them up the road. You certainly do not want birds that come back from training and carry on flying and ignore you. And if you are clever you will have your birds training well before the other people start. There is nothing worse than trying to train your birds when everybody else is at it. If that happens, your birds will learn to fly in company with others and turn for home eventually. Not a bit of good.  

[Guest kevin b]

Josh just a couple of tips,

first of all if you are in a built up area with lots of fanciers around when your young birds are starting to get strong on the wing and starting to run/range, try let them out before anyone else gets their birds out in the morning, this stops them hanging around the area getting caught up with other batches and because they are full of energy they will range further and gives them a better veiw of the area around them.

 

Another thing I picked up is when your birds are coming up to their first race try letting them go one by one for a couple of tosses, doesnt have to be very far but it will get them used to arriving at the loft alone, this can stop them getting first race jitters, we have all had it on the first race.

Young bird breaks its heart to get home but has never arrived to the loft on its own, gets a fright and sits on the loft for what seems like hours.

 

Kevin

[Guest kevin b]

Thanks for the replys. How do I work out the line of flight?  :-/

 

Cheers

 

Find out where your fed races from, just train in that direction.

 

Have a look on google earth and ask the lads around you.

 

Kevin

[Guest stb-]

once your young birds are away ranging for about an hour  take them  20mls and let them go in small batches  anything between 20 and 30 mls is fine .

 

get a nice open space where you can sit and let them go in groups away from trees wires etc.

 

your insulting a pigeons intelegance with all them daft small tosses .

 

they dont even need to be trained on line of flight to win .anywhere does so that they use there heads to come home.  Good pigeons no how to find there way home you dont have to show them  fact :)

[Guest joshdonlan]

Cheers guys. Im quite lucky, there are many racing guys locally so should have a freeish sky. There is a guy down the road who keeps strags, but I will have a word with him. His often drop with mine, but that will be sorted  

[Nim Chimpsky]

I work 7 miles away from home, along the line of flight where my birds will return from races.  I take them to work every morning and release them there.  I leave their food in the loft so it's waiting for them when they arrive.  Would anyone recommend that I also take them out for a toss in the afternoon?  It would be more convenient for me to drive further and release them after work.

[Guest youngboy]

well last year with my young was four 8 mile tosses then 4 13mile and then the rest till first race was 25mile but i rushed them because i was behind!! but still got them past 164 mile and was very happy with that!  but this year ill be doing sumthing different ill be traing them

11 miles till they beat me dad home!!

he a few 16 mile tosses then a few 15 mile then ill be training with a few fellow members at the 25 mile!! we still yet to decide will we go for the 31 mile!!

and these are in direction of race points aswell!!

[Skull Lofts]

once your young birds are away ranging for about an hour  take them  20mls and let them go in small batches  anything between 20 and 30 mls is fine .

 

get a nice open space where you can sit and let them go in groups away from trees wires etc.

 

your insulting a pigeons intelegance with all them daft small tosses .they dont even need to be trained on line of flight to win .anywhere does so that they use there heads to come home.  Good pigeons no how to find there way home you dont have to show them  fact :)

You are 100% right at that!

 

When your birds are ranging for an hour or more, they go further than 10miles from home, so whats the use of taking them on shorter tosses?

 

I usually start at 20miles first tos.

The trick is to basket them when they finish flying around the loft the morning you want to tos them.

 

Skull

 

[Guest mick bowler]

Have to say i wouldnt start training until mine STOP ranging. I would give a couple short tosses just to build up their confidence and then train up to 20 miles, there is no need to train any further than that, although i did last year and lost more YBs( 8 ) than i have lost for many a year!"

[Guest dibble]

once your young birds are away ranging for about an hour  take them  20mls and let them go in small batches  anything between 20 and 30 mls is fine .

 

get a nice open space where you can sit and let them go in groups away from trees wires etc.

 

your insulting a pigeons intelegance with all them daft small tosses .

 

they dont even need to be trained on line of flight to win .anywhere does so that they use there heads to come home.  Good pigeons no how to find there way home you dont have to show them  fact

 

spot on stb

[Guest youngboy]

how many tosses would you say the birds need before there 1st race??