rpra one loft mob flying

[blaz]

the late dale newcombe was known to send more birds to a race than the rpra one loft does. how many of you out their have his blood line through your birds, quite a few i think as the man was a grate pigeon man . i have never heard of his birds stealing the secsion or anything like that.his birds won because good birds good food good loft and a grate man to guide them. if its not in them you wont get it out of them.

[vanlink]

good point blaz, I agree with that. Its got to be in there to bring it out.

 

In the one loft race flyers are submitting what they consider to be their best. they consider it to be in there and so we have a large collection of the best in one spot.

 

[blaz]

good point blaz, I agree with that. Its got to be in there to bring it out.

 

In the one loft race flyers are submitting what they consider to be their best. they consider it to be in there and so we have a large collection of the best in one spot.

 

as i have said i have 2 away to it this year. if any of my 2 are their at the end . i will be paying for them to stay for the yearling races. i will also be sending 2 or 3 of what i consider the best i can bred next year. as at last i have some of my mates interested in my pigeons

[Guest]

Lets not forget, rightly or wrongly mob flying (which I participate in myself sometimes) can destroy clubs.

Best topic in a long while, question I'd like to ask is could many of us actually have the ability or resources to stand up to the challenges that mob flying brings?  Probably not.    

 

 

[Guest]

Best topic in a long while, question I'd like to ask is could many of us actually have the ability or resources to stand up to the challenges that mob flying brings?  Probably not.    

 

O YES YOU CAN

 

 

[blaz]

i found out when i 1st raced birds that a dozen  of good quality birds .will take on and beat the mob flyer's . to my delight

[Guest puresoontjen]

MOST OF YOU ALL SAYING THE SAME ABOUT RPRA, JEREMY AND TIM IN THE ONE LOFT RACE  IN THIS ONE LOFT RACE MOST OF YOU SAY THIS IS WHERE ALL THE BEST BIRDS ARE APPARENTLY, THIS IS WHY THE 1 LOFT RACE WAS SET UP SO THEY COULD COMPETE AGAINST OTHER FLYERS UNDER ONE MANAGEMENT. IN OUR CLUB THE ONE LOFT BIRDS HAVE RACED 5 TIMES AGAINST OUR BIRDS I CAME FOURTH CLUB AGAINST THESE SO CALLED MOB FLYING AND ALSO OTHER MEMBERS HAVE BEEN 1ST PLACE AGAINST THEM WE WERE'NT PUT OFF BASKETING LOL. THERE MUST BE SOME JEALOUSY IN HEREFORDSHIRE

YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE THERE ARE MEMBERS WHO SAY YOU MOB FLY WITH THE AMMOUNT OF BIRDS YOU TAKE TO RACES

ONE POINT TO REMEMBER THE PRIZE MONEY WENT UP FOR THIS RACE AS THE BIRDAGE WAS HIGHER

ANOTHER POINT A FLYER SENT 1 BIRD TO THE NATIONAL LAST YEAR AND WON IT

GO FIGGER THE BEST BIRD WON

[vanlink]

I think it is very difficult to fly against a mob week in, week out. I am not saying it can not be done but it is difficult. It does affect the morale of novices.

 

I believe that drag has a factor in races. I believe that when you increase the British entry for the internationals then you help some one in Britain (they are still a worthy winner and a hero of mine). The Belgium’s and Dutch enjoy a massive birdage luxury in the internationals. I believe that the more birds that go up in a race then the easier it is. Safety in numbers, and slipstreaming just like cycle racing. It is easier to get birds home in a race of 1000 than 100.  

 

I am not faring as well on an other forum with this topic and to keep you all in the loop it has been highlited that i dominated my club result on saturday while mob flying. Yes i did and i am sure if i asked some one too vouch for me they would say that i did not want the result published as i felt i had an un fair advantage due to the number of birds i sent. I was embrassed and i did not expect it. the birds seemed to be motivated. It could have course gone wrong as some times motivation can back fire. It has also been pointed out that i have entered 22 birds with the NFC on saturday. Again i do not deniy this. I have so far not had many races and find myself with a lot of birds that need to be raced. It does pain me to send 22 as it was not cheap and i will probably not even see the race as i am at work.

[vanlink]

Soontgen

 

(We have already had this chat on an other forum)

 

I did send 35 birds on Saturday (once in all the time i have been racing) because I have not lost many birds like I do normally, I was late to start racing and I have missed races to which meant that I was in an unusual position of having too many birds, which needed a race. So I sent them. This does not happen a lot and as you seem to know me and possibly race in my fed then you will be aware of what I have achieved with just two birds before now. Yes I had a good result, which I was embarrassed about which I apologised for having due to the un-fair advantage on birdage numbers. I admit that I had an unfair advantage just as I think that the one-loft birds have an un-fair advantage in a race.

 

You know my name as Mike Link of Link Bros. I would be interested to know your name and your reason for making snide comments. Where is the basis for you thinking I am jealous and what of.  I am trying to engage in mature debate.

[vanlink]

I have to admit Soontjen, as much as it pains me because you have got my hackles up, I admire your club for taking the challenge on. Your club members must be commended for their embrace of the One Loft Race Birds into the club.  I am sure that there are many clubs and flyers who despite possibly saying they would welcome the challenge would probably not allow it if it presented its self. So as a club you should be proud that you embrace the best competition. Now all you need to work on are your manners.  

[Guest]

O YES YOU CAN

 

 

 

Stop picking on me..   :'( :'(  Was meaning most not all of us.       ;D ;D ;D ;D   ;)

 

[Guest puresoontjen]

vanlink

this is a debatable thread,

but your point being that your friend lost his section to 1 bird from the 1 loft birds but you failed to mention that the second bird from the one loft was some  24 mins apart. so as your debate was MOB FLYING please enlighten everyone here where was it mob flying???  i would love too see a mob flyer get mobbed from a race of some 400Miles in the weather condition there was

as for getting your hackles up, it gets my hackels up when pigeon flyers b***ch they lost the race because mob flying

i dont know what birdage was on the poiters national but lets say for eg 7000 birds the 1 loft 105 birds section c sent 1000 birds all flying back to the south west of england but bird 1 and bird 2 from the 1 loft were 24 mins apart. i cant see your point to mob flying on this race

as to flying in your fed no i dont and the basis of me suggesting jealousy,  i cannot see any reason other than jealousy for someone to b**ch about a lost race because of mob flying when it clearly wasn't

and my manners are fine i congratulate the winner every week not like some people who b**ch about the winner instead of conratulating the winner of the race

there are a few novices in our club and they were not put off racing against the 1 loft birds infact took positions off the 1 loft  birds

yours in the sport

Mr P. Smith

and thats my name.....

[blaz]

vanlink

this is a debatable thread,

but your point being that your friend lost his section to 1 bird from the 1 loft birds but you failed to mention that the second bird from the one loft was some  24 mins apart. so as your debate was MOB FLYING please enlighten everyone here where was it mob flying???  i would love too see a mob flyer get mobbed from a race of some 400Miles in the weather condition there was

as for getting your hackles up, it gets my hackels up when pigeon flayers b***ch they lost the race because mob flying

i dont know what birdage was on the poiters national but lets say for eg 7000 birds the 1 loft 105 birds section c sent 1000 birds all flying back to the south west of England but bird 1 and bird 2 from the 1 loft were 24 mins apart. i cant see your point to mob flying on this race

as to flying in your fed no i dont and the basis of me suggesting jealousy,  i cannot see any reason other than jealousy for someone to b**ch about a lost race because of mob flying when it clearly wasn't

and my manners are fine i congratulate the winner every week not like some people who b**ch about the winner instead of congratulating the winner of the race

there are a few novices in our club and they were not put off racing against the 1 loft birds infact took positions off the 1 loft  birds

yours in the sport

Mr P. Smith

and thats my name.....

 

WELL SAID and when thy mob fly the yb,s i hope one of mine is in front closely followed by redrockets

[Guest puresoontjen]

:-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ : why did you take that post off vanlink :) :) :) :) :) :)you said again all i have to do know is to change my manners WHY

[vanlink]

I deleted the post because it was a computor error and just repeated what i had already said.

 

Right then Mr P Smith, with regard to your manners, I am referring to the way that you address me and the way that you cannot put your point across without swearing and trying to insult me. Would you still speak to me in such an aggressive way if we were to have a proper conversation face to face? Where you could see on my face the way I re-act to what you say.

 

With regard to mob flying, 24 mins is nothing when it comes to a long distance. Are you trying to say that the bird flew the whole way on its own always 24mins ahead? It could have been with 50 other birds from the one loft race right up until 50 miles when the other birds got tired or slowed up. It could have had an easy time for the first 350 miles slip streaming other one loft birds or any other scenario that I can invent in my head or it could have flown the whole way on its own. The problem here is that none of us really knows what happens during a race but some others and I think that the amount of birds that you send helps. You are perfectly entitled to disagree with me but there is no need to threaten, bully or intimidate me into agreeing with you. If you or any one else makes a good point then I can be swayed in my thinking but at the moment I have not really heard a logical defence against what I am saying.  

[superstar]

MOST OF YOU ALL SAYING THE SAME ABOUT RPRA, JEREMY AND TIM IN THE ONE LOFT RACE  IN THIS ONE LOFT RACE MOST OF YOU SAY THIS IS WHERE ALL THE BEST BIRDS ARE APPARENTLY, THIS IS WHY THE 1 LOFT RACE WAS SET UP SO THEY COULD COMPETE AGAINST OTHER FLYERS UNDER ONE MANAGEMENT. IN OUR CLUB THE ONE LOFT BIRDS HAVE RACED 5 TIMES AGAINST OUR BIRDS I CAME FOURTH CLUB AGAINST THESE SO CALLED MOB FLYING AND ALSO OTHER MEMBERS HAVE BEEN 1ST PLACE AGAINST THEM WE WERE'NT PUT OFF BASKETING LOL. THERE MUST BE SOME JEALOUSY IN HEREFORDSHIRE

YOU NEED TO GET A LIFE THERE ARE MEMBERS WHO SAY YOU MOB FLY WITH THE AMMOUNT OF BIRDS YOU TAKE TO RACES

ONE POINT TO REMEMBER THE PRIZE MONEY WENT UP FOR THIS RACE AS THE BIRDAGE WAS HIGHER

ANOTHER POINT A FLYER SENT 1 BIRD TO THE NATIONAL LAST YEAR AND WON IT

GO FIGGER THE BEST BIRD WON

 

 

Excuse me I'm a Hereford flyer, infact in the same club as mr Van Link and I aint got a jelous bone in my body so dont be thinking that thanks.

 

[whiteflighted]

hi i don t think the first bird would of broke at 50 miles away because it means if they flying at 30 miles an hour the first bird would of had to speed up to 58 miles per hour to arrive 24 mins in front i would say more then likey he broke at the channel but however thats my opinion

[Jeremy]

Mr Link

This has gone far enough now its time to put a stop to all this i am sure Pete will gladly talk to you face to face. We can meet up this Thursday at the Marking around 11 am so me and you can have a little chat...

[Jeremy]

Thats all i have to say goodnight all. ;D

[just ask me]

well the way i would see it is like this i have a chance to race against of what fanicers think are there best birds from all over the country which is competition true trained and fed in the one loft but u would be racing against good birds id love the chance to be honest at the end of the day i would like the competition to be as strong as possible so it pushes me harder to get more out of my birds i race mark my birds with fanicers sending 50 60 70 birds i have no problem with that some fanicers can only afford to have a few racers due to time space or what ever the reason do i condone big team fanicers no way i see it makes racing cheaper on the rest of us but that only a little point by far the most unfair part of the sport is location also look at it this way any fancier has a better handle on a few birds than a few hundred but would i like the chance yes would i welcome a one loft race in my fed with open arms to be honest as i said it would make try harder  push by birds harder and id really find out what i have in race loft and stock loft

 

just my opinion happy racing

[blaz]

regardless of what any of you try and say the best bird on the day won it hands down. i have no doubt in my mind .call you self a good pigeon man then learn to give credit where credit is due .if you youre where offerd a yong bird from both HONESTLY which 1 would pick  

[Guest puresoontjen]

firstly when you have been there, and done it, you could comment on the 1 loft birds  

logical defence and proof mob flying is not an advantage

our club have raced 5 races againt the 1 loft birds this year

results say it all they do not have an advantage and are not unbeatable the best bird does it on the day

when u do see me face to face i will have club results at the ready

i have not threatened, bullied or intimidated you to change your views but tried to prove mob racing in my opinion is not an advantage

the person who threatened first was u as you got your hackles up, as your hackles are up when we are face to face i will watch your face glow red

enough of this childish game all what i have said is fact like it or lump it

[Guest puresoontjen]

 

 

Excuse me I'm a Hereford flyer, infact in the same club as mr Van Link and I aint got a jelous bone in my body so dont be thinking that thanks.

i do appoligise superstar i didnt mean how it sounded i ment vanlink was from hereford

 

 

[vanlink]

There you have it, you have results to prove me wrong so i am willing to conceed that i may be wrong.

 

Its been a good day and very entertaining for the most part, its kept the forums interesting, we should be congratulated for that at least.

 

I may not see you or jeremy at marking because its my sons birthday but i am sure you or jeremy will be out to beat my massive 22 bird send on saturday.

 

May the best bird win.

All the best to you both.

Mike Link

[blaz]

of course the local birds will beat them as we lot that send them are hoping or yb mature quick to win at 199 mile that is their main goal .any thing else is a bonus not just for  the rpra and the fed the the winners of the smaller club as well .(example?) i won a race at 133 mile in club and fed i also beat 100 yearlings from the rpra one loft race .me for one would be delighted not just for ny club and fed but i also beat a 100 birds from all over the country that where sent down as their best bird that thy could breed last year.i would be all   :)