Guest cloudview Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 morning , has anyone on the site done any successful breeding using this system ive got a rough idea how it works ,just need clarification ie are the say 3 hens left with cock till all lay or are they introduced on a daily basis plus what if yuo have,nt got the sitters ready , how long would an egg stay fresh and fertile untill you could underlay them im asking on behalf of a mate , but never having done it myself ,i dont want to give him wrong info
pigeonchested Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 Please find below a quick summary of the bull system. THE BULL SYSTEM DAY ONE Remove cocks from racing section, introduce hens into racing section, feed and water them. Lock them in boxes, introduce cocks and they will mate up to the hens, as the cocks will probably already have claimed a box they should mate to the hen in their box. Leave the cocks overnight. Take a note of the boxes the hens are in at this point. DAY TWO Remove cocks in the morning, let hens out of boxes for an hour for food and drink, introduce cocks again and leave until morning. Take a note of the mated pairs and box numbers. DAYS 3 and 4 Exactly the same as 1 and 2. DAY 5 Remove cocks to y.b section. Let hens out for a drink and feed for an hour. Release stud cock, after 15 mins release the first hen, as soon as they have treaded, remove the cock and lock up the hen. Give the stud cock 30 mins rest and repeat with the remaining 5 hens. Rest him for two hours and then repeat the process. Remove cock, lock up hens and introduce racing cocks. DAY 6 and 7 Repeat days 5. DAY 8 There should be eggs by now, if not repeat the process until hens have laid their 2nd egg. Then remove stud cock and introduce race cocks, and they will sit and rear the youngsters.
OLDYELLOW Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 eggs that arent incubated and removed straight away can be stored and floated at a later date , and hatch as normal
DUBLINFLYER Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 Please find below a quick summary of the bull system. THE BULL SYSTEM DAY ONE Remove cocks from racing section, introduce hens into racing section, feed and water them. Lock them in boxes, introduce cocks and they will mate up to the hens, as the cocks will probably already have claimed a box they should mate to the hen in their box. Leave the cocks overnight. Take a note of the boxes the hens are in at this point. DAY TWO Remove cocks in the morning, let hens out of boxes for an hour for food and drink, introduce cocks again and leave until morning. Take a note of the mated pairs and box numbers. DAYS 3 and 4 Exactly the same as 1 and 2. DAY 5 Remove cocks to y.b section. Let hens out for a drink and feed for an hour. Release stud cock, after 15 mins release the first hen, as soon as they have treaded, remove the cock and lock up the hen. Give the stud cock 30 mins rest and repeat with the remaining 5 hens. Rest him for two hours and then repeat the process. Remove cock, lock up hens and introduce racing cocks. DAY 6 and 7 Repeat days 5. DAY 8 There should be eggs by now, if not repeat the process until hens have laid their 2nd egg. Then remove stud cock and introduce race cocks, and they will sit and rear the youngsters. will the hen accept the stud cock after she lays the 1st egg
jack Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 i have a bull box if you would like to buy it gary from dublin
pigeonchested Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 BELOW IS A QUOTE FROM NIGEL LAYCOCK "But be warned, I have never known a hen that has already laid her 1st egg to allow the stud cock to tread her again, so the theory of 2nd egg fertilisation needs looking at." WHEN NIGEL LAYCOCK TRIED THIS HE RAN ONE COCK WITH 12 HENS AND ALL EGGS WERE FULL. THIS WILL BE MY FIRST YEAR TRYING THE SYSTEM.
OLDYELLOW Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 hens can store sperm so i wouldnt recomend the second egg been fertised by stud cock better to have hen one side shut up cock other and feed and water hen in box after 5 days introduce stud cock to box and remove foster cock after hen been trod for 2 days and first egg is layed let the cock in box and leave box open the cock would think the egg is his and sit it as been with hen for 15 days
Guest joshdonlan Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 Jack, can you please take a few pics of your bull box? Josh
Ian Gill Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 Keep it simple ..dont try to over complicate things and forget about those purpose built Bull Boxs ..they are more trouble than they are worth
DOVEScot Posted October 30, 2008 Report Posted October 30, 2008 i will put up some pics the weekend Great, we have been looking for pics for ages
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