Breeding from distance birds

[Guest]

Every year I only breed from my stock birds and not my channel racers, the young from my stock team are away in january and i don't pair distance birds up until mid - march, only like to have one team of youngsters.

 

I would really like to put some of my best stock cocks to my best channel hens first, what does anyone think of pairing them up and letting them lay and then floating the eggs under other birds.

 

Then taking the hens away and repairing with channel team in march as usual, can any of you guys see any pitfalls with this ie bringing on the moult early for the long distance events.

 

I would appreciate your experience guys.

[Guest]

Also what does anyone think of pairing the hens up in the stock bird loft to get the eggs, then in march pairing them in the channel loft with their race partner.

 

Could this confuse them.

 

They won't be let out of the stock loft.

[kaybee]

widowmaker, if u pair the hens to ur stock birds i would only let them sit about five days as in the past i have let them sit for ten days then removed the hens only for them to be past their best come the distance races

[Guest]

thx kaybee, was thinking of just taking the eggs away as soon as they laid. Do you think if I let them lay at christmas I should pair them up with their racing partner later in april.

[Guest]

Widowmaker

 

I would think about pairing up 70 days before the first race

[Guest]

Thanks Hyacinth

[Guest ben]

Hi Widowmaker,

                  have you thought about having your aviary from stock section,on line with a corridor running front of racing lofts,then racecocks can be paired to stockhens...race hens to stockcocks..right through racing season....you`ll never be in the dodgy position of losing a partner just before a long race for whichever sex your racing,and instead of letting the stockoutside the loft for a fly,they will just walk along the corridor into the old stock aviary section till its time to let them back in their section....you could call it WALK-A-BOUT,instead of round-a bout...only trouble try not to shout it to loud,there are plenty of sleazy pigeon milkers out there who will try to start selling videoson the baCK OF IT

[PC]

Another option is breed a few late breeds from your best channel birds//stock birds at the end of the season & keep these for stock takes longer but no risk of upsetting your raceing plans

[Guest]

Cheers PC not a bad idea

[jimmy white]

i would tend to agree with hyacinth,,and p.c.   rather take latebreds off them after the season, burning the candle at both ends sometimes doesnt work

[Guest]

Cheers guys

[snowy]

hope you dont mind me hopping on this topic,

but should i do the same, as this is my first year to breed & race, as most of birds are stock prisioners,

should i breed two rounds of sprint/middle first, then breed my distance birds last, as in late breds

[jimmy white]

NO SNOWY YOU CAN BREED WHEN YOU WANT , ITS REALLY FOR THE OLD BIRDS GOING THE DISTANCE    [ REALLY FOR PREPARATION FOR SENDING THEM THE DISTANCE OVER 500 MILES, WHEN THEY ARE TWO OR THREE YEARSOLD]

[snowy]

oh thanks jim,

 

[snowy]

rose,

you know the young birds that are for future long distance racing,?

do you give them any races at all their first year?  or just train?

thanks

[snowy]

thanks rose

[Diamond dave]

Rose,

How do you tell when the youngsters are matured? I think I have a mixed family (Gift Birds) and dont really know which are which.

[Guest]

Just wondered what the distance people thought was best for channel candidates: (1) allow them to raise a youngster before the programme begins; or (2) don't allow them to raise a youngster at all before the race programme and send them on a youngster; or (3) don't allow them to raise a youngster at all before the race programme, raise a late bred after the programme?  

[Guest]

rose do your channel birds rear the first round

 

[jimmy white]

if you paired your distance birds about10 weeks b 4 the big one youll find their either sitting or hatching their second round, and probably just cast their second flight, but thats just a guide line ,as all birds are differant, some will race better to newly hatched young, some 10 days on eggs, some old cocks even driving, then theres races that suit widowhood cocks, then there are cocks that race better widowhood, i would say base your system on the way their parents have scored, likewise with the management.

[Guest]

I THINK JIMMY AND ROSE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT AS THEY HAVE THE RESULTS TO PROVE  IT   PS RINGS ARE IN THE POST LOL