Gay Pieds

[The White Rapido Man]

I'm after a couple pairs of 'gay pied' racing pigeons...............racing performance is not important at all as it is the colour I'm after........

 

I have a spare section in my loft and had an idea about pairing them to a couple of my white rapidos, in order to selectively breed the colour out them in a few generations time.....

 

many thanks chaps

 

 

 

.................sorry for the duplication

[Wiley]

i think even if you paired a normal blue to your whites, mate you would get gay blue pieds and whites. Then art of selection would take place, just keeping the gay pieds that are bred,

[The White Rapido Man]

no doubt Wiley.................however if I start with GP's to white......I'm guessing I'll be closer to throwing a bird with more white.....then again some of in  now still throw a colour every so often.....

 

 

..............interesting is'nt it!  

[Wiley]

i think the colour gentics are very intersting, hope you are successful in your search

[Guest]

yes colour genetics are fascinating and Douglas McClary's book "Pigeons For Everyone" has an excelent chapter on this but along with other books there is very little written about the colours black and white or the breeding of pieds,think more information should be written on this.

[THE FIFER]

i got a red from my whites this year, and lots of them are coming in with blue saddles and some with blue tails,

[DOVEScot]

i got a red from my whites this year, and lots of them are coming in with blue saddles and some with blue tails,

 

Almost every bird in chickadees stock is white, and she always get coloureds amongst the young

This is her third year, she is going to keep all the young whites and pair them up next year to try and dilute the coloured genes hopefully

[The White Rapido Man]

 

Almost every bird in chickadees stock is white, and she always get coloureds amongst the young

This is her third year, she is going to keep all the young whites and pair them up next year to try and dilute the coloured genes hopefully

 

 

my thoughts entirely!

[little sam]

there are 2 posts on this lol i answerd to ur one on wanted section m8 tyake a look and let me know

[Ronnie]

If you paired a white cock to a blue hen would you get pied's or grizzle's?

I was led to believe you would get grizzle's.I allways get lost on the colour genetics thing.

[The White Rapido Man]

In theory .......yes...........

 

But then again it depends whether or not the white cock was bred from whites....if you see what I mean

 

 

the idea would be then to dilute the colours by pairing the birds that throw the most white......to a similar bird and carry this on  over a few generation until white becomes the prodominant colour....

 

I know of a chap who developed his own line this way...and he now has over 60 birds that throw mostly white........but the odd colour is thrown back every now and then

[Wiley]

If you paired a white cock to a blue hen would you get pied's or grizzle's?

I was led to believe you would get grizzle's.I allways get lost on the colour genetics thing.

 

in theory you would get gay pieds, blues or whites.

[little sam]

or maybe a white flight  

[Guest beautyhomer]

yes colour genetics are fascinating and Douglas McClary's book "Pigeons For Everyone" has an excelent chapter on this but along with other books there is very little written about the colours black and white or the breeding of pieds,think more information should be written on this.

 

Black is the genetic expression of the following genes:-

 

blue(colour) + checker(pattern) + spread(colour modifyer)

 

You could use a blue bar but the bars tend to show through in good light.

 

There are two ways of getting white pigeons

 

The bull-eyed recessive white &

A combination of different pied markings

 

There is a wide range of different pied markings which may be dominant or recessive.Therefore it will depend on which combination of these pied genes you have present as to how they will breed.The white tails of Danish Tumblers are recessive but the white tails of Jacobins are dominant!!

 

Easy isn't it!

[The White Rapido Man]

 

not that easy nor text book I wouldnt think..............but as I mentioend before

 

........very interesting!!

[Fair Play]

The late Leslie Davidson (Observer) was the man for genetics some of his writings were fascinating would be interesting if the Homing World would do a reprint of his articles as they are as relevent today as they were 20 years ago