training twice a day

[Guest slugmonkey]

Depends on why you are doing this if you are doing it to condition birds then youre better off going longer 1 time if you are trying to get them sharp then twice a day is great I go 2 times on Thursday and Friday once early and once late but I only go 15-20 miles this will keep them from flying by on fast days and will help you get larger drops I trained like this yesterday and the day before and will let you know how it works I also go off the line of flight and change directions both tosses again all I am trying to do is get them thinking

[jacksafc]

There are some lofts in the UNC  that in recent years train twice a day with remarkable results but these lofts would win anyway, trouble is a lot of fanciers are copying the training schedule without the knowledge of feeding to suit sometimes with disastrous results.

[Guest TAMMY_1]

hows it bad tammy

 

thats like giving them a race every day, and then a race every saturday, they cannae fly endlessly, but thats only my opinion, they are your birds and you do what you want with them, I train from forty odd miles every day but never with the same birds, as the races get a lot longer i will send them twice a week but they will be picked for individual races and they are not guaranteed to go the week they are trained, this has worked for me over the years and if what you do works for you then thats fine.

[Guest]

race saturday, rest sunday, out rond loft monday, train tues, weds, thurs out to 20 miles in morning, round loft in afternoon, rest friday, then it starts all over again.

[me]

 

thats like giving them a race every day, and then a race every saturday, they cannae fly endlessly, but thats only my opinion, they are your birds and you do what you want with them, I train from forty odd miles every day but never with the same birds, as the races get a lot longer i will send them twice a week but they will be picked for individual races and they are not guaranteed to go the week they are trained, this has worked for me over the years and if what you do works for you then thats fine.

 

What doo you call a long race Tammy? Not being a smart ass here jist trying to learn from "everybody" Thats how you win!!

[me]

Depends on why you are doing this if you are doing it to condition birds then youre better off going longer 1 time if you are trying to get them sharp then twice a day is great I go 2 times on Thursday and Friday once early and once late but I only go 15-20 miles this will keep them from flying by on fast days and will help you get larger drops I trained like this yesterday and the day before and will let you know how it works I also go off the line of flight and change directions both tosses again all I am trying to do is get them thinking

 

 

If you just want to get them thinking get them a book of crosswords or something!

 

Give them a change of "thought" by all means but that is a different thing all together!

 

Hope I hav'nt misunderstood you slugmonkey I know we are 2 nations separated by a common language!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Guest slugmonkey]

We had a 2200 ypm race today at 300 miles with a 27-42 mph tailwind if your birds arent thinking they get blown right on by this wind was blowing s-sw and I live on the west side so I shouldnt have even been close but yet there I was right up at the top...

I think I'll try to keep them smart without crosswords

I sent 6 and put 2 in the top 10, I was only beaten by 2 lofts that I was giving up 13 and 18 miles and both are WAY east of me

[dazza]

it is ridiculous to blindly send same pigeons training twice a day. Pigeons are like any other athletic competitor they are all individual with different make ups and what suits one will be detremental to others. The skill of a good pigeon man/woman is to know the birds individually.

[p charlton]

i had my best young bird season buy training twice a day my mate used to pick them up in the morning and take them to work with him they slept in the baskit all night. they got a 20 mile toss they were back for 10-11. they were back on the club trainer for a 35mile toss i won every young bird race that year but 1 and the south east lancs fed avrages. from the 22 birds that i did it with i lost 2 all young bird season they went as fare as rennes with the lanes combine what i think was 310 miles to me. i had to move that year so i put some of the birds in the stock loft and breed winers from the start

[Merlin]

Their is a max of 100% fitness,you only sustain this for a period of time,consequently training and racing young bird hard in the year of their birth is detrimental to their future as old birds,they are not machines,when you train them hard and race them likewise as youngsters,for the majority of these you wont have them as old birds,whats left are burned out after the yearling stage,their is always an exception no doubt,but for the majority its au revoir time,I beliive as youngsters their training and racing should be an education and selective process for future racing as old birds.

[p charlton]

true mate but i had to move pens the year after so the darkes got tested plus i had a team what had it easy

[jimmy white]

 

"excercising" twice a day not a bad thing at the right time for the right length of time trust "me"

 

 

yip,, big difference from "excercising" twice a day than taking pigeons 30 mile "training" twice a day ,, yb,s will win like this ,,but only last a short time ,,ob,s are to crafty for this,,,,,,theres a time to train ,depending on the races you want to win   as long as their doing an hour am and an hour pm of their own free will , they wont need much training [during the racing season that is  ]

[westy]

 

yip,, big difference from "excercising" twice a day than taking pigeons 30 mile "training" twice a day ,, yb,s will win like this ,,but only last a short time ,,ob,s are to crafty for this,,,,,,theres a time to train ,depending on the races you want to win   as long as their doing an hour am and an hour pm of their own free will , they wont need much training [during the racing season that is  ]

 

i agree with u jim when i was racing ybs in 2006 i hardly trained my pigeons during racing but the were flying morning and nigth at least 45 mins and my results wernt too bad and plus it was my first season racing.

[JSTOON]

sINCE 2003 I HAVE FLOWN THE DARKNESS WITH YBS, AND HAVE TRAINED THEM WHEN RACING TWICE A DAY MON-THURS, NO MORE THAN 18 MILES UPTO 120 MILE RACE, THEN AFTER THAT THE YB GO ONCE A DAY 40 MILES- 50 MILES, MON-THUR DEPENDING ON WINDS AND WEATHER. SINCE DOING THIS I HAVE BROKEN NEARLY EVERY CLUB RECORD WITH YBIRDS BEFORE, THREE TIMES LAST YEAR TAKING 1-6 POSITIONS IN CLUB. THE OLDER BIRDS DONT NEED AS MUCH TRAINING IN MY OPINION, AND WILL QUITE EASILY FLY AROUND HOME, AND DOES IT AFFECT THEM FROM THE YEAR PREVIOUS, WELL I WOULD SAY NOT. I HAVE TOPPED THE FED THIS YEAR WITH A YEARLING, AND WON 7 OTHER RACES WITH YEARLINGS ALL BEEN IN THE TOP5 OF THE FEDERATION, AND WON THE OLD BIRD INLAND AVERAGE 13 TIMES OUT OF THE LAST 15 YEARS. FOR ME AS PIGEONS GET OLDER, LIKE US TOO, THEY SLOW DOWN, THERE IS ALWAYS AN EXCEPTIONAL BIRD THAT WILL WIN UPTO 5-6 YEARS ON SPRINT, BUT THEY ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN. I GOT THSI SYSTEM LIKE I SAY FOUR YEARS AGO, AND NEVER LOOKED BACK.