why do children not seem interested in our sport ?

[Guest chrisss]

The union rules should be change!

Any members that resides within the club boundary shall be accepted unless there is a justifyable reason! Any application refused should be confirmed by the region with the club providing the reason fir refusal!

I have spoken to the girls dad and it appears the reason the club are rejecting the application is that he raced with the club and then lost interest. His daughter misses the birds and want to race on her own but the club thinks that it is her dad who wants to race again but in her name!

He was a fully paid up member that did not default so they have no reason to refuse!

I have found out that the club involved isn't in the same fed as ourselves so I have given them our fed secs phone number to put them intouch with another local club.

 

Phil

 

any chance of a name for the club [even pm'ed] i have this strange urge to dole out some hate mail ;D ;D ;D ;D this sport is dying and these muppets are turning people down for no reason [i can only assume her dad was a good flyer and they have'nt got the stones to face him big fish small pond springs to mind here]

[pjc]

Rab, I can see one way the sport will survive is for each county to have 1 federation,maybe 2, 1 north & 1 south but all clubs racing together. Clubs having to accept members or just being marking stations.

This is the only way some will survive by working together, how many half empty transporters run up and down the country each week burning fuel and paying drivers/convoyers?

[pjc]

Chriss, he only raced for a short period so don't think was any threat but has members of the family still racing at the club. He knows what they call the club but not sure of its official name, I will try and find it.

[DOVEScot]

The union rules should be change!

Any members that resides within the club boundary shall be accepted unless there is a justifyable reason! Any application refused should be confirmed by the region with the club providing the reason fir refusal!

I have spoken to the girls dad and it appears the reason the club are rejecting the application is that he raced with the club and then lost interest. His daughter misses the birds and want to race on her own but the club thinks that it is her dad who wants to race again but in her name!

He was a fully paid up member that did not default so they have no reason to refuse!

I have found out that the club involved isn't in the same fed as ourselves so I have given them our fed secs phone number to put them intouch with another local club.

 

Phil

 

Totally agree, clubs should send all acceptances and refusals into their governing body. trouble is nowadays if some don't get there own way they do not stick in and keep agruing their case, they spit the dummy out and leave, or worse still start up their own little organisation. this is not getting at anyone, it is the same in most sports, pick one and you will find it has happened somewhere along the line

[pjc]

Yep totaly agree, there are 2 ways to go in this sport if your not getting the results you require, you can run off and join an inferior small club where you may get results or you can take a look in the mirror and raise your game to compete!

I would rather be 2nd or 3rd each week against 500+ birds than be winning every week against 50 birds!

[Guest chrisss]

yep its the same around my way we have 2 clubs one [mine] has a membership of 23 the other one has a membership of about 18 one flys north one south instead of joining together in 2 sections they fly apart  based on some "war" 3/4 members had years ago :-/ :-/ :-/

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Don,t disagree with any off the above.

 

However sure many will agree the club radius,s are more often than not. (Lost for words). Say "round on the map" they are very often shaped to suit. This is unacceptable in this day and age.Federations and Unions know this is going on and has done for years.

 

This sport need dragged in to the future, and not until we have resolved some of the fundamental problem, can we truly turn our attention, to a co ordinated plan for increasing our numbers.

 

Yeah.

 

Rab Smith

[pjc]

When I started Racing in Oxford area, there was 2 feds, they both went through bad times but they would never get together and help each other, it was the older fanciers that had clearly been waring about something in the past that prevented sense from prevailing! When one fed went to the wall some members packed up rather than having to go with the other fed!

[DOVEScot]

Yep totaly agree, there are 2 ways to go in this sport if your not getting the results you require, you can run off and join an inferior small club where you may get results or you can take a look in the mirror and raise your game to compete!

I would rather be 2nd or 3rd each week against 500+ birds than be winning every week against 50 birds!

 

Like I say the same the world over, how many world titles do the have in boxing all because someone spat oot their gum shield ;D

[pjc]

You think we can get rid of the dinosaurs that sit on the regions and council first?

Until we do we don't stand much chance of moving anywhere apart from backwards!

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

This is something most will know off. It has happened in most areas,and will continue to happen, due to lack off clear leadership,and direction, from those in power above club level.

 

Rab Smith

[Guest chrisss]

You think we can get rid of the dinosaurs that sit on the regions and council first?

Until we do we don't stand much chance of moving anywhere apart from backwards!

 

very doubtful even when they do go [aged about 108] the last thing they do is get one of their own in to replace them, look at the rpra, the man to replace the man will be a politician not a straight pigeon man or woman its like the last days of the roman empire ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pjc]

I don't know if anybody goes to region meetings but when they are there they just want to excercise there power and score points off each other!

They get power mad and if a vote goes against them throw there toys and spit dummys out!

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Power to the People[face=Times][/face]

[DOVEScot]

You think we can get rid of the dinosaurs that sit on the regions and council first?

Until we do we don't stand much chance of moving anywhere apart from backwards!

 

Who is going to replace them, the sport needs a total overhaul and cross federation talks by a consiliation commitee to get them all together, appoint negotiators either from the sport or if need be from outside the sport :-/

[pjc]

Prob is Rab members don't use the power they have and stand and be counted! To many happy to stick there head in the sand.

[pjc]

nobody will take the bull by the horns and give the sport a shake

[DOVEScot]

To many happy to stick there head in the sand.

 

Aye and leave their *expletive removed* in the air and greet when they get shafted :'( :'( :'(

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

Yeah your right mate most want nothing to do with it. There is however reasons for this apathy must surley play a big part of there contempt for authorities in place.

 

DOVEY Could not have put it better myself#

 

Cheers

 

Rab

[THE FIFER]

 

very doubtful even when they do go [aged about 108] the last thing they do is get one of their own in to replace them, look at the rpra, the man to replace the man will be a politician not a straight pigeon man or woman its like the last days of the roman empire ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

 

well its the members who put them in power, they cant just say "I'm taking this job" they must be elected in, and in all cases there are more members than officials so the majority must be puting them where they are,

 

[DOVEScot]

 

 

well its the members who put them in power, they cant just say "I'm taking this job" they must be elected in, and in all cases there are more members than officials so the majority must be puting them where they are,

 

But if you don't show an interest and declare your views, the same old same old will stay in place :-/

[rembrant2coo]

 

very doubtful even when they do go [aged about 108] the last thing they do is get one of their own in to replace them, look at the rpra, the man to replace the man will be a politician not a straight pigeon man or woman its like the last days of the roman empire ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

i would just like to say chriss wwhen you say the new person taking over the r.p.r.a. do you mean mr les blacklock he is the new president  elected at the last agm of the rpra and one of the nicest blokes you will care to meet he is a pigeon man he is not a politcian he is a hard working mental health nurse officially and a very good and understandable  chap that i have ever met.                                          

 

(  if were talking along the same tram lines )

[Whats it called Cumbernauld]

We can now vote electronically in an election of Government, so why not on the election of office bearers with in our sport.

 

The list of things in need of change is endless and it would take a comprehensive examination, to scrap at the surface,of our problems but we got to start somewhere.

 

Jobs for the boys springs to mind

 

Rab Smith

[THE FIFER]

 

But if you don't show an interest and declare your views, the same old same old will stay in place :-/

 

 

so if members dont go to the meetings to vote them in who's falt is it they get to stay in, "the ones who dont go and are the ones who complain" as i said its the members that put them in office so how can they complain, the problem is most of the younger ones dont want the jobs or want to attend meetings, so where would the sport be without the ones that keep getting the jobs, and as said its the members that put officials in ,

 

[DOVEScot]

 

i would just like to say chriss wwhen you say the new person taking over the r.p.r.a. do you mean mr les blacklock he is the new president  elected at the last agm of the rpra and one of the nicest blokes you will care to meet he is a pigeon man he is not a politcian he is a hard working mental health nurse officially and a very good and understandable  chap that i have ever met.                                          

 

(  if were talking along the same tram lines )

 

But is he forward thinking and willing to take on board some new ideas before the ship runs aground.